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If you didn't saw my reply…

See my reply here: here. Υμβρελλα (talk) 19:17, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I really hope that was a joke..

First of all, it is absolutely not my responsibility to add a correct link to the article. You're very hypocritical in saying I should have been bold and fixed it myself because instead of adding it in YOURSELF, you spent your time by reverting my edit. And what a boneheaded move it was to re-add such an incorrect link to an article. That metacritic link has nothing to do with Beyonce's album and doesn't belong there.

The undo button is there to quickly undo an edit that is vandalism or generally not constructive. Adding a link to a different album review is nowhere near constructive. If every editor who hit the undo button fixed the entire article instead, this encyclopedia would be done by now. But that's not how it works, and you have some balls to undo a bad edit just to prove a point, and a bad point at that. Gloss 03:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Even more hypocritical is this edit. The article is too long? Following your actions, I should undo that edit and tell you to fix it yourself I suppose. Gloss 04:01, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

How sweet of you to fix it while still getting a jab in and sending me an undo notification. Grow the hell up. Gloss 14:35, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Gloss: It was fixed the first time I undid you, which you would have noticed if you paid attention instead of arbitrarily reverting. I also wouldn't have needed to do it in the first place if you had taken all of 30 seconds to find the proper Metacritic link instead of undoing others just to be obnoxious. Please do not contribute to my talk page any further if you're going to continue being uncivil. –Chase (talk / contribs) 14:55, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Also, you're confusing "undo" and "rollback", my friend. –Chase (talk / contribs) 15:02, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

"Sirens" alternate cover

Why did you delete the alternate cover for "Sirens"? I do not think that WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8 is a valid reason for deleting it, because firstly, The cover is being used at almost all platforms of streaming and digital download, ranging from Rhapsody to Spotify. Next, the cover is not exactly useless, like NFCC#8, and it actually helps the readers to have a better understanding that it is an alternate cover. Reason being, the cover currently is the EP cover, while the one I uploaded is the single cover. Although EP covers are used very commonly, such as Love Me Harder and I Lived, but if a single cover can be found, it is best to add it in too. Ping me if you have replied. Cheers, Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 09:11, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia is supposed to be a free encyclopedia and non-free media should be used sparingly, not generously. Two single covers are usually not needed unless both are exceptionally notable. –Chase (talk / contribs) 21:02, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Frankly speaking, the second cover and the EP cover is notable at the same extent, as all (if not most) digital download platforms and streaming platforms have the covers for both of them. Therefore, that is why I uploaded it. Please also acknowledge the one on Boom Clap, if it fails the criteria. I uploaded both of the covers on that article, and the second one is used only at Amazon (Amazon tend to use different covers). If you think it is not needed, feel free to nominate it. Since you are a veteran editor, I think that trusting you would be better. I was just here to have a better clarification. Cheers, Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 09:15, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Please notify

I understand that you will DI files due to orphaned usage, but please at least notify the original uploader. I know you use Twinkle, but you can change to a default notification at the preferences. I only knew my cover for "The Hanging Tree" was filed for deletion. Please notify in future, as it is also basic courtesy to do that. Thanks, Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 08:49, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Nahnah4, you were notified here. –Chase (talk / contribs) 21:00, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh damn, I missed that. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 09:11, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Another lead needing work

If you have the time, Title (Meghan Trainor album) has another lead that could use a trim. If not, I could take a shot at it but you seem more knowledgeable about what information is notable enough for inclusion in the lead and what isn't. Gloss 04:47, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

I might take a look later. –Chase (talk / contribs) 16:07, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Taylor Swift Invite

You have been invited to join the Taylor Swift WikiProject, a WikiProject on the English Wikipedia dedicated to improving articles and lists related to Taylor Swift. If you are interested in joining, please visit the project page and add your name to the list of participants. Thank You.

Discussion

Talk:Ice_Ice_Baby#Song_sample --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:20, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Warning for a warning

Hey, I disagree with this. MaranoFan has many flaws but this warning was justified, since Emynimbley made a profoundly shitty comment (which I just removed). You can argue that they shouldn't have used a warning template, but a warning was warranted. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 20:53, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

@Drmies: I didn't notice that comment in particular since it wasn't signed. Regardless, it didn't obviously strike me as a personal attack, just an uncivil comment made in the heat of a discussion. I wouldn't go as far as to call it "profoundly shitty", though it was certainly unnecessary. –Chase (talk / contribs) 17:18, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Thriller video

Not sure if you'll see it, but I posted on the Thriller page about the move suggestion. The actual official name of the film/movie/video is Michael Jackson's Thriller". (see what I added on the page). I just wanted to let you know because I think it might change your suggestion to move it. FYI! :-) Wikimandia (talk)

AfD

I find it a little weird, that the file you nominated for deletion, File:Trouble.png, did not come to a closure on whether it should be kept or deleted. I think everybody forgot about it, and I wanted to close the AfD, but I don't know how to. Thanks, Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 09:44, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Notability (music)

I have made a proposal for a change to the opening paragraph of Wikipedia:Notability (music). You have discussed similar issues on the article's talk page and would appreciate your input. Please see Wikipedia talk:Notability (music)#Do all of these guidelines imply GNG or are they stand-alone?. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Some Macedonian baklava for you!

With a hope that our Wikipedia relationship will be better one day! Cheers. — Tomíca(T2ME) 20:54, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

AN/I

You'll note that with Only's comment and the one from a non-admin that followed, the circling shark-fest has begun. So much for him not wanting to be bothered or get involved, eh? -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 16:23, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Biography of Gaga

Hi Chase, just wanted to know how is the biography coming along? Is it ready for moving into mainspace? —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 07:19, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

@IndianBio: I haven't really had time to work on it, honestly, with school stuff. I was going to do it in December during Christmas break, but lacked motivation. When I have time, I'll try to polish what I've already worked on (hardly anything's been updated since Cheek to Cheek's release) and move that to mainspace, then finish the rest later. –Chase (talk / contribs) 14:47, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. What's with the alternate account Chase Public? I thought someone was impersonating you. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 05:09, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

@IndianBio: It's for use on public computers and non-secure internet connections. Unlikely anything could happen, but better safe than sorry.

Also, sorry for the misunderstanding on the Madonna article. You should have just said that there were no credits from the beginning :P –Chase (alternate account) (talk / alt contribs / main contribs) 15:59, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Residence

Hey bro,

Regarding this edit, just figured I'd say that while there are sources saying KP lives in Los Angeles (this being the most recent I can find), that was included in infobox based on her moving there at 17. Whether it's relevant enough to include in infobox or not, just figured you should know.

Cheers, Snuggums (talk / edits) 20:12, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for finding sources. I still think it's not necessary for the infobox and just pads it unnecessarily. Perry's LA residence isn't particularly notable like, say, Michael Jackson's residency at the Neverland Ranch. Also, and far less significantly, Perry's article is a BLP and we are supposed to make concessions to respect LP's privacy. Although her residence can be easily found with a Google search and LA is a very large city, it's probably best to omit that since it's not essential. But mainly, I just don't feel it serves the infobox's role of providing the reader with core information. It's not a big issue for me, though, and I wouldn't be too invested in a discussion regarding it. But that's just my two cents. –Chase (alternate account) (talk / alt contribs / main contribs) 20:47, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Understandable Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:17, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Whatever

Hello, Chase. It's me again. If you see my talk page, it is flooded with orphaned non-free images. It is all from MaranoFan (but s/he did not, as usual, nominate them for deletion, troubling Stefan2 to do so) as s/he looks like s/he had learnt their lesson. S/he seems to be wikihounding me at Special:ListFiles/Nahnah4, and said that there is "nothing more preferable for the cover artworks" or some shit. Tell me, what is wrong? MaranoFan may be blocked because of this reason, but when I asked the editor who blocked him on whether replacing JPEG files with PNG is an allowed thing to do, they did not reply, which I treated as a silence-means-consent basis. I'm really sick of this, MaranoFan. Okay, let's ask the following users, Tomica, Livelikemusic and Status, you guys do these too. Is it against the freaking rules? I don't understand, I need to clear my mind. Even administrators like Diannaa just told me to use {{di-orphaned fair use}} when doing that, but not {{db-f1}}, and from here, you can infer that it is still an acceptable thing to do. I am saying this here, as I see that you might help with this current situation. Even though MaranoFan (or MF as s/he hated to be called, but do I even care) did not nominate all for deletion, s/he just nominated those that the original picture wasn't in 300px. S/he uploaded a new version of 300px, before nominating mine. What the hell, since PNG is preferred, why do you still do this? I am really getting tired of this. Chase, we need your diplomacy. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 05:36, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

• User:Nahnah4: {{Db-f1}} can only be used if the other copy is in the same file format. You can't add {{db-f1}} to a JPG file if the other file is in PNG format. --Stefan2 (talk) 09:51, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, Stefan2, but the other users who do the same such stuff as me use {{db-f1}}. Fail. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 09:52, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Requested move of Yahoo! to Yahoo

I saw that you closed the move discussion on Yahoo!. It's fine if you drew your consensus not to move the article based on a simple count of votes; after all, oppose votes outnumbered support votes by two at the time you closed it. However, I do see some issues with your closing comments:

• Saying that "The support arguments are not very strong..." is subjective, full of weasel words, and just plain incorrect. I don't think closing comments are an appropriate place to take such stabs at the side of the argument with which you personally disagree. The fact is that both sides of the argument were strong, which is why it generated such productive and verbose discussion. If the supporting argument wasn't very strong, why did Red Slash change his vote?
  • I apologize for that wording. Regardless, I feel that the opposing side provided more policy-based reasoning.
    • Even if the oppose argument was stronger, that doesn't imply that the support argument was "not very strong". Both arguments were strong—regardless of which one you agree with.
      • @Voidxor: Again – bad wording on my part. My apologies. –Chase (talk / contribs) 17:41, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
• While MOS:TM has occasional exceptions, WP:COMMONNAME isn't one of them. The two policies/guidelines target completely different issues. The latter deals with how to title the article (in terms of which name to use, if more than one exists, and how to spell that name); the former deals with punctuation, spacing, capitalization, and other formatting of that nature. They don't really overlap and they especially don't contradict one another.
  • They certainly can overlap; some stylizations are so prevalent that COMMONNAME easily trumps them; deadmau5 is an example. However, like several editors in the discussion, I'm not convinced that the "!" is a "special stylization".
    • Deadmau5 uses a numeral, not punctuation, so COMMONNAME can apply to it. However, I still don't see where COMMONNAME mentions special characters or provides examples with punctuation.
• Even if WP:COMMONNAME did contradict MOS:TM, the company no longer writes its name with an exclamation point (outside of the logo), so it is no longer the common name. Supporting users pointed this out but none of the opposing users offered a rebuttal.
  • Long-term usage trumps recentism. Even the majority of Google Books sources prefer "Yahoo!"; and COMMONNAME says books and news archives are typically preferred to standard web sources. (A majority of Google Books results prefer "Yahoo!" at writing.)
    • What policy says that long-term usage trumps recentism? If a company changes its name, we move the corresponding article, leave a redirect at the old name, and make a boldface mention of the former name in the lede.
• The three prior proposals to make this move predate the company's recent change to drop the exclamation point from text use of their logo. The 2006 and 2008 proposals likely predate MOS:TM in its current form, and the 2013 proposal doesn't hold much water, in my opinion, for reasons stated in the discussion. – voidxor ^{(talk | contrib)} 05:01, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Long-term usage trumps recentism. Also, MOS:TM has essentially remained the same since 2004, though it's been fleshed out with more prose since then.

@Voidxor: Regardless of my closure, it wouldn't seem there was any clear consensus to move the page, so you can take this up at MRV, but I doubt that would be helpful. I would wait a few years, see if "Yahoo" by itself becomes more prevalent, and try again. I'll try to be more careful with closing such discussions in the future. Thanks for your comments. –Chase (talk / contribs) 13:12, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm not going to appeal because there were more oppose votes than support votes. I just wanted to point out that the support argument was not weak, per se. Thanks for your comments as well, and happy editing! – voidxor ^{(talk | contrib)} 16:13, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

A thought

You might want to reword your close to no consensus to move unless you really think there was a strong consensus against moving. (This is not meant as any sort of critique.) Red Slash 22:13, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

I did close as "not moved" which doesn't necessarily mean "consensus to not move", but I can alter this. –Chase (talk / contribs) 23:49, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, it sort of does mean "consensus not to move" - see WP:NOTMOVED., which I wrote to clarify the situation. I get that it's not intuitive at all; I had to write that because to those of us that follow RM discussions regularly, "not moved" and "no consensus" are as different as Poland and Saskatchewan. If you didn't see a consensus, would you mind making that clarification, please, then? I do appreciate your time. Red Slash 01:15, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

@Red Slash: It's been fixed –Chase (talk / contribs) 04:47, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Discography help?

Hi there. I'm working on some discography articles, but have run into a brick wall and could use some guidance. You were recommended to me as someone who could possibly help. I've written out a bunch of stuff on an article talkpage, Talk:Shinhwa discography#Issues still to resolve and would love any feedback you could provide. I plan to continue working on other discographies in the future, and this would be immensely helpful. Thank you so much for any help! Shinyang-i (talk) 14:20, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

@Shinyang-i: I have a lot of work going on with school the next few weeks, but I'll try to take a look when I get a chance. –Chase (talk / contribs) 23:49, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

I totally understand! Thank you anyway, whether you're able to review or not. :) Shinyang-i (talk) 17:45, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Madonna (entertainer)

What will we do with this article's title? If "Sia Furler" uses natural disambiguation to spare ourselves from more RMs, why not the same for Madonna? --George Ho (talk) 20:23, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

discussion should take place on the Furler talk page, not here, and the difference between her and Madonna has already been noted. –Chase (talk / contribs) 21:34, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Wrecking Ball

I see that WP:RECENTISM has trumped WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. This happens again and again at RM, yet anyone who has actually read either citation will no doubt be baffled. Recentism is an essay about to how to balance history and current events in an article's text. It does not mention article titles, let alone primary topics. Primarytopic is a guideline cited repeatedly in WP:Article titles, which is policy. Man from Nephew (talk) 05:56, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations

Because of your block log, you've become one of the first recipients of the soon-to-be-coveted {{User accidentally blocked}}. Congratulations :-) Feel free to remove it if you don't want it, of course. Nyttend (talk) 00:44, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Time for AN/I again?

Regarding MF: I think it might be time for another visit to AN/I, don't you? -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 19:16, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

@Winkelvi: I really don't feel like making the thread, but I agree that the battleground mentality has to stop. On a sidenote, I would love to know what this "big deal of trouble" is. –Chase (talk / contribs) 19:18, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I wondered the same. It's almost as if he feels he has an admin or two in his corner (if not his pocket) and will just call in a favor. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 19:21, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

@Winkelvi: Ha. I'm not too terribly concerned. At the rate MF is going, history is bound to repeat itself until the inevitable indef. –Chase (talk / contribs) 19:22, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I agree. This time, however, when he chooses to disappear to avoid any scrutiny or repercussions, I don't think it will end up the way he'd like. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 19:24, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi, friends. Why are you happy at my downfall? Can't we sort this out right here? Please describe to me what the problem is? All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 19:53, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

You know what the problems are, so please don't play dumb. But here are some specifics: First of all, you and I aren't friends, so please don't foster that misconception any further. Secondly, no one is "happy at [your] downfall". Finally, we've tried numerous times to sort it out with you. Innumerable times, to be more precise. You've made promises, you've broken them time and again. You've threatened each of us over and over. You've violated policy after policy over and over - even after being given plenty of opportunities to change your behavior. There's nothing more to sort out. You're already under one sanction, if you don't clean up your act, there will be more. One further point: Your new sig change ("All About That Bass") indicates to me that you are who I've always thought you are: the same person behind the abandoned account User:Lips Are Movin. Is all this clear enough for you? -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 19:59, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

What is with the no WP:AGF attitude?? I am not "play[ing] dumb". I want to help the problem. Please talk about what is wrong with my edits, and not about this whole.. my problems with you thing. I want to be your friend. But you spit regularly on my welcoming hand. All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 20:05, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

More blah-blah-blah. You've spent your "AGF Get Out Of Jail Free Card", okay? It's no longer valid. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 20:07, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

From that previous comment, it is clear to me that you are not here to collaborate with me. Why do you keep following me around if all you are interested is in reverting me. Please maintain some plain distance. All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 20:09, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

It would appear that you followed WV to this discussion. –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:10, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Lol. True, that. :-) -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 20:14, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

The problem, MaranoFan, is that you continue to take things too personally and respond to criticism or reversion of your edits with personal attacks, hostility, demands to stay away from your edits, accusations of stalking/hounding, etc. When someone tries to help you out and point you in the way of policy, you not only ignore them but amplify your disruptive editing in rebellion (such as with file editing, which resulted in your topic ban). You have serious civility and POINT issues that need to be sorted out, and until you can realize that (and have it show with a change in your editing), it's apparent that you will only continue to receive editing sanctions, as WV has pointed out. I would not be surprised if you receive an indefinite block by the end of this year, if not the end of its first half. –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:10, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Please help me avoid it, Chase. I don't wanna get blocked. Give me some solutions, sir. Taking a user to Ani is not a solution to anything. I would like help from you to get better. However, I mistook WV for Chase above. Chase is responding to this much more maturely though. All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 20:13, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: Start with reading the policies and guidelines. WP:AGF (yes, take your own advice) would be a good place to start. Quit assuming that criticism of your edits is because people are out to get you. They're not. They, like you, are trying to improve the project. –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:21, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

(←) With no disrespect intended toward either of you, I do not want to continue this discussion here further. Any unresolved problems can be worked out at ANI. Thanks. –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:22, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Good call, Chase. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 03:12, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Jr. comma RfC

You're invited to participate in the discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#RfC:_Guidance_on_commas_before_Jr._and_Sr. Dohn joe (talk) 02:22, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

WP:AGF

I have just read the policy completely and plan on using it. Thank you so much for the advice. And if you ever face a problem with me in the future, can you not use templates but demonstrate the problem in your own words. You are a good editor. Thank you. All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 07:06, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Update re: MF

The editor who claims he wants to "get better" is back to the same behavior before the pleas and cries for help to avoid AN/I (see here [1] and edit summary here [2]). Quote:

"The above user is speaking a big bald-faced lie. How the fuck can you say that there are no sources when [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] and [8] are all reliable sources already in the article? The above user's only problem is that I am actually improving these articles and their disruptive little streak-of-edits will be ruined if these reliably-sourced consensus-following pages are promoted to GA. All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 16:27, 20 April 2015 (UTC)"

Chasewc91, this is not an "I told you so", just a notification that nothing has really changed. Until something happens that makes a BIG impression on him, nothing will. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 16:49, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Words like "fuck" or "bullshit" have even been used by you guys. As for the comment, it is TRUE and what you wrote has been described by perfect adjectives. You are just not collaborative and this ain't my fault. All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 16:54, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: Your use of profanity isn't the issue. It's your complete lack of good faith by calling WV a liar (and the profanity doesn't help the harsh tone) and saying that he's ruining the article and you're saving it (which also comes off very OWN-y). Did you even read AGF like you said you did the other day? It doesn't show in this at all.

@Winkelvi: Start an ANI if you wish and I'll gladly comment. MaranoFan obviously isn't going to learn anything. I'm starting to think a site ban may be in order; the constant drama and ignorance of P&G is tiring and disruptive. –Chase (talk / contribs) 17:11, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

As Winkelvi previously accused me of doing, THEY have spent their "AGF Get Out of Jail Free Card". I am very much in the clear here. I wont be taking WV to ANI as I know that isn't the solution to anything. The singer-songwriter thing is a drama they use everytime I try to get the article promoted. The article has beenstable for over a year, and they say that I am the bad guy here. All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 17:36, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

• My two cents: WV did in fact lie in this case by claiming a lack consenus when one clearly exists; the matter at hand was discussed a few months ago and consenus was clear that we can call her a singer-songwriter because many sources do. He really needs to stop baiting MaranoFan and others. Calidum T|C 18:05, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

• @Calidum: If you're referring to this discussion, I don't see much of a consensus. –Chase (talk / contribs) 18:09, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I was referring to the one I linked to, in which several users all came to an agreement to follow the sources and call her a singer-songwriter; Wink was the only one to disagree. Calidum T|C 18:13, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I would like to ask all editors involved to take this to the relevant venue - either ANI or the article talk page. My talk page isn't a good place to resolve this. Thanks. –Chase (talk / contribs) 18:11, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Just a heads up!

You are not to edit my userspace under any circumstances. I don't need to provide reasons. I do something wrong?, let someone else talk to me. Are we clear?? All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 17:45, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: Please read WP:NOBAN. Users can ask (or, like you, rudely demand) that their talk pages not be posted to, but that doesn't stop you from receiving relevant warnings and notifications. If I see you violating policy, I will warn you and not "let someone else" do it; others may not notice and you may not be warned. Remove it from your talk page if you want, but your rude demands don't mean anything to me. –Chase (talk / contribs) 18:30, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Your dearest friend, Winkelvi is doing the very same to me... So you admit it is wrong? All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 18:32, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: Winkelvi and I are not friends and I've barely interacted with him outside of my dealings with you. Like WV, you reserve the right to remove any message from your talk page that you want to. But that is not stopping anyone from leaving messages. There is no formal way to ban someone from your talk page unless there is an interaction ban in place. Regards, –Chase (talk / contribs) 18:37, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

• No, Chase, that is not correct--All About That Bass can "ban" you from their talk page, which typically means that only such "mandatory" things such as deletion and ANI notices are allowed. Pff--let them. Five minutes from now, or tomorrow, they'll feel differently. And it's their loss--they're missing out on our beautiful prose. By the same token, you can tell them to fuck off from your talk page as well, if you like. Happy days, Drmies (talk) 19:47, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Chasewc91, I'm deeply hurt. Drmies, glad to see someone use 'fuck off' besides me. And you are correct: missing out on our beautiful prose is a loss. Then again, I didn't get a 'fuck off' from MF, so maybe he doesn't wish to be completely deprived. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 20:41, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

@Winkelvi: Don't take it the wrong way! I just don't tend to think of anybody on Wikipedia as a "friend" per se. I have people I run across or collaborate with frequently and have friendly interactions with, like you, but I've never been the biggest fan of the "e-friend" concept. :P –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:46, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Ha! I was totally kidding. One of these days I will learn what coding to use to include smileys here. :-) -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 20:50, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

I figured. But better safe than sorry! –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:53, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

@Drmies: I just took you up on that. Ha. Love how the big bad wolf is stepping up their big boy game with the threats on our posteriors and whatnot. –Chase (talk / contribs) 21:47, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

I was told in an edit summary by him that I'm having a mental breakdown...is there coverage for that? ;-) -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 21:54, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

OK kids, that was enough fun. The less said the better: not worth the electrons, certainly not on Earth Day. And if we get our asses hauled off to ANI, well, I'm all about that bass. No treble. Drmies (talk) 21:55, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, OK dad. :-) -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 22:51, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Reverts at Title (Meghan Trainor album)

Chase, You do not talk page consensus to change long term article content describing that album as Trainer's debut. Please revert your recent edit and work to attain consensus for your preferred version first.--BoboMeowCat (talk) 20:18, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

@BoboMeowCat: First of all, it was Adam Files who restored the "xth studio album" wording; I simply modified it for factual accuracy. There is no consensus at the talk page for your preferred version. Consensus involves more extensive discussion than has currently taken place. Please take your WP:OWN behavior and demands somewhere else. –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:22, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Chase, you again removed "debut" which is longstanding content currently being discussed. --BoboMeowCat (talk) 20:26, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

@BoboMeowCat: The current text reads "first full-length album with a major recording company." The same idea is being conveyed. If you want to have further discussion, go to the article talk page. I feel that the current wording is a fair compromise, since it addresses the fact that it's Trainor's first album with a major label (your preference) while also acknowledging her three prior albums (my preference). I will not engage you any further here. –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:28, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Repeatedly removing the debated key word of "debut" doesn't seem to be a compromise. You may at some point attain consensus to remove this content, but you do not currently appear to have it. I agree regariding continuing discussion regarding desired changes on talk page.--BoboMeowCat (talk) 20:48, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

MF is back and behaving disruptively

Please look into this for me [9], it's an article I created. MF is back and looking for revenge (see his post on Calidum's talk page). I'm at work and have no time to devote to working on the problem. Thanks, -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 14:54, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

It was taken care of speedily by other who saw through the nomination. I don't think this will be the last of the drama he seems to thrive on. Time will tell if we need to follow through with what we've discussed previously. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 18:33, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

@Winkelvi: I would look into an interaction ban. –Chase (talk / contribs) 22:56, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't want any kind of sanction on my end of things, Chasewc91. If it's a one-way ban (him toward me), fine. But I don't think that ever happens. Sanctions are typically a death-knell, from what I've seen -- and I don't want something like that hanging over my head. There has to be another way. Or maybe just for him to agree to stop with the vendettas and poking and leave me the eff alone. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 23:54, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

@Winkelvi: One-ended interaction bans are possible. Consider it. –Chase (talk / contribs) 00:31, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I'd really rather see him under the tutelage of a smart, willing mentor. If he screws that up, it would be obvious there's no hope for him to become a cooperative editor who makes productive and meaningful contributions. Maybe another AN discussion? -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 00:46, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: The kid has already been topic banned, and an interaction ban with someone who she (I think MF is a she...) is unwilling to collaborate with is the next logical step. I don't think the coddling is necessary. She has displayed a clear disregard for obeying policies and guidelines even after being made aware of them; not sure what a mentor could do. Neither the current T-ban nor suggested I-ban are a full site ban, if she can't behave with both in place then there is no point even bothering with her. But pursue whatever you want and I will gladly back you up if you go to AN. –Chase (talk / contribs) 01:23, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

When you put it that way, I guess we are past the possibility of mentorship being a viable solution. Maybe WP:ROPE? -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:37, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Ariana Comment

Hey Chase, I'm a tad confused at your change of "Remix album" to "Compilation album" at Ariana's discography, could you further clarify for me? Thanks, Azealia911 _talk 23:11, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

@Azealia911: Remix albums are compilation albums. Compilation albums are collections of songs; in this case, collections of remixes of songs by Grande. Note that in the album infobox documentation, "compilation" and "remix album" share the same green color. –Chase (talk / contribs) 00:33, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Are you meaning to say that there should be no Remix heading on any discog page because theoretically, all remix albums ARE compilation albums? Just trying to get my head around your point haha. I did also notice your point about the same colour infobox, but that same template also lists mixtapes as the same colour, and we don't change their subheadings to compilation albums? Azealia911 _talk 00:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

@Azealia911: The modern meaning of "mixtape" (ie in hip hop circles) differs greatly from its original intention which is why they tend to be listed separately. And yes, remix albums should be listed with compilation albums. –Chase (talk / contribs) 00:41, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Surreal Barnstar
	I just want to feel like I made things right. All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 18:32, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I would appreciate a review at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Meghan Trainor discography/archive1 since you already have experience with this sort of a thing. All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 18:09, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Can you please explain to Winkelvi that this is exceptionally stupid? All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 18:31, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Will you leave a "support" pr "oppose" comment? Thanks...... All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 16:21, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: I will if I decide to look thoroughly at the article. Please do not badger me for a !vote. –Chase (talk / contribs) 16:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

I did not badger you. You are a great editor. :) You wonderful, heavenly, lovely FL Lady Gaga discography is the main inspiration behind this article. You are the perfect person to comment there. Thank you for making that brilliant list. All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 16:25, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

At least you got a suck-up barnstar, Chase. I just got an invitation to comment, then I was badgered to comment in the manner s/he wanted me to comment. That was followed up by an attempt at censoring the comments I did leave. Just can't win for losing, I guess ;-) -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 16:28, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

You do know that personal attacks aren't accepted anywhere on Wikipedia, right? Not even talk pages. All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 16:33, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

First of all, MaranoFan, WV's comments are not personal attacks. You should read up on the relevant policy to find out what constitutes a personal attack. Secondly, that's enough from both of you. Please take your conflict elsewhere. MF, I have asked you before not to post on my talk page. Please do not post here again. Thank you. –Chase (talk / contribs) 16:36, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Hey there

Hey, im Mario and I am yet to start my wikipedia endeavors. I have worked for pedia sites before im just new to Wikpedia as a new editor. I have been working on a new page for wikipedia I just need some advice,pointers, or it to be spot checked for any errors that could violate any rules, as well as I cant upload a file yet which I would need for this page. If you could help me out id appreciate it thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariogomez23 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 3 May 2015‎

@Mariogomez23: Wikipedia:Your first article may have some tips you'd like to check out. Also, as a new user, you will not be able to upload files. Usually, after your account is four days old and you have made 10+ edits to the project, you will be able to (see here). I will leave a few more links on your talk page that should help you out. Welcome to Wikipedia and happy editing! –Chase (talk / contribs) 16:50, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Chasewc91: Ask yourself why would a brand new editor come to this user talk page as their first edit, compliment you, and ask for help with uploading files? (of all things to ask about) Who do we know that has a recent "relationship" with file uploading? Looks like an obvious sock of an established editor to me. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 16:51, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

@Winkelvi: How did this completely go over my head? And look who arrived to the welcoming committee. Would you care to launch the SPI? –Chase (talk / contribs) 16:54, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Are you experienced with filing SPIs? I've done several, but not all have been accepted (I think I'm around a 90% success rate). If you have a burning desire to file it, go ahead and I will support you there. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 16:57, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Lol! Looks like we both simultaneously filed at SPI :-) Let's let the clerks sort it out! -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 17:25, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Suggestion: From now until the SPI is completed, engage the accused a little as possible. Especially' at the SPI itself. Then again, WP:ROPE could be a friend ;-) -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 17:34, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

@Winkelvi: Oh, I agree. But that "I don't know who Selena Gomez is" quip after uploading two files related to her was too good not to pounce on. –Chase (talk / contribs) 17:39, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Absolutely! -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 17:40, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

The Remix move

Chase the Books related to that article also needs an update to the current wikilink. Just noting. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 05:41, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

@IndianBio: Could you please fix links as you see them? I didn't get around to everything. –Chase (talk / contribs) 05:54, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Take a look

You need to see the latest weird development here [10] and here [11]. Yeah, it really happened. I commented and will be resurrecting that old SPI from January later today. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 14:28, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

But if you want to do it before I'm able to, feel free. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 14:53, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Hey

Hey, could I ask for you to chime in on a disagreement on my talk page about some edits I've made in removing unsourced text from discography's. I'd really appreciate it alot, cheers. Azealia911 _talk 01:37, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Gaga bio

Asking you again, any update on it? That was a good piece Chase. :( —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 10:39, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

@IndianBio: I know, you probably want to shoot me by now. I have horrendous wiki-ADD, I can't focus a lot of attention on just one article at a time. I have a very long summer this year, 4 months, so I'll probably find time to go back through really soon. I would like to see Gaga as TFA for her 30th next year. –Chase (talk / contribs) 17:10, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

I hope to get Mother Monster as TFA on her 30th birthday as well. Not sure when she'll be ready for FAC, but I do look forward to nominating her. Snuggums (talk / edits) 17:13, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Guys, would you mind if I experiment with the article in a sandbox, like Talk:Lady Gaga/FAC move for something? —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 05:24, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Till it

I removed the tag since I completely disagree with you on the notability aspect of the article. It already has third party independent notability, what it lacks is an expansion. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 16:55, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

@IndianBio: I personally don't think you should have removed the tag before adding more sources – it specifically says "The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for music. Please help to establish notability by adding reliable, secondary sources about the topic." – but I'm not going to add it back. I would like to see significantly more sources added soon otherwise it might be a candidate for merging into the film article. –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:15, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

What is it with you and Winkelvi following each other and arm-tagging? I see you both together in ANI, 3RR in Trainor talk pages etc. Its very suspicious. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 03:30, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

@IndianBio: I think Winkelvi just keeps tabs on my edits. I barely maintain contact with him, so please don't make assumptions. –Chase (talk / contribs) 04:04, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

No, not that, was not talking about the sock thing. The person not just keeps tabs, kind of follows you everywhere like a stalker or something. Its kinda suspicious as to why. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 04:09, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

@IndianBio: I'm not sure what exactly you're getting at. If you're implying any sort of collusion (not just socking), that's not the case. I don't even maintain an email here and I don't contact any users off-wiki. If you're just concerned... well, I'm not. I don't feel like I'm being harassed or anything. –Chase (talk / contribs) 04:16, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Hmmm good for you, personally I'm still concerned. It could be a case of trying to get adopted. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 04:21, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

WTF are you talking about? It makes no sense; but I do see accusation - even if just backhanded. Regardless, IndianBio, if you have what you feel is a legitimate concern, feel free to take it to a noticeboard somewhere. Otherwise, keep your ridiculous assumptions and suspicions to yourself. Your comments here are uncalled for and disruptive. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 05:20, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Falsified report at AIV

FYI: [12], [13]. Dwpaul ^Talk 18:33, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

@Dwpaul: Thanks for the heads-up. –Chase (talk / contribs) 18:40, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Angel Haze discography/archive1

Mind leaving some comments? Thanks Azealia911 _talk 00:20, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to pester, but the FLC's been open for a week, and I fear it'll be closed as a result of too little participation, I've addressed the comments you made, and would be happy to address any new ones, could you possibly give it a yay/nay? Cheers, --Azealia911 _talk 12:44, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

@Azealia911: I've been very busy with a lot of things offline and don't really have the time to look closely at it right now. Sorry. Wish you the best with the FLC. –Chase (talk / contribs) 17:27, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Completely understand, hope you're not too stressed! Take care. Azealia911 _talk 17:28, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Talk:I Don't Wanna Grow Up

I'd really appreciate you chiming in on this, I've seen you remove similar information in other article so I hope you can demonstrate some viable points, thanks Azealia911 _talk 21:06, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Caitlyn Jenner is under Discretionary Sanctions

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Hillary Clinton's Private email Server article & talk page

@Chasewc91: You wrote: "I have reverted your move because an RM is currently taking place on the talk page. You may wish to comment here if you would like to propose a new title. Thanks." –Chase (talk / contribs) 14:04, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Don't wish to comment there, thank you. And, perhaps you would do better to stick with good faith contributions to Lady Gaga, "Speechless", etc. -- and worrying about your college classes -- not waste anymore time on this one, which is currently embroiled in endless Talk Page nonsense, which you have just managed to exacerbate. Professor JR (talk) 15:22, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

@Professor JR: I am free to contribute where I wish. Get off my talk page if you're going to be rude and condescending before you end up reported and blocked. –Chase (talk / contribs) 15:48, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Furthermore, if you're not going to participate in the move discussion, then don't move the article. Simple. –Chase (talk / contribs) 15:52, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Question for an Administrator

RE: User talk:Deor#Question

@Joseph A. Spadaro: It would have been preferable if you came to my talk page to discuss the matter with me before going to an administrator. –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:07, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi. My apologies if I did not bring you "into the loop" with this question. But, to be honest, I didn't feel like this question had anything to do with you. I was asking an administrator about what the "official rules" are, in case I ran into this issue in the future. I thought that you and I had considered the matter between us resolved, and we had both moved on. So, I wasn't really concerned with your strike-out edit (since I was under the impression that we had already resolved our issue). I wanted to know the "rules" (from an administrator) if that situation ever happened to me again in the future. Am I correct to assume that the issue between us has been resolved? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:37, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: Yes, it's fine. Cheers. –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:43, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. You will notice that my original question to the Administrator had nothing to do with you and/or with our edit disagreement. It was a general question to provide me with reference for the future. I did not make any reference to you, your name, the Talk Page, or the specific edit. It was just a generic and general question. When the administrator asked for a specific example, I offered the information that he requested. But, again, I was not seeking any guidance on your particular edit, but just the matter in general. Thanks. Have a good weekend. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:45, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Hillary Clinton server title discussion

Hi, this is not the usual nasty-gram one gets before things escalate . . . just wanted to explain why I put the sources stuff in their own section. Basically, the threaded discussion is endless and does not help with what should actually decide what the title is going to be, namely sources. I was quite disappointed to see threaded discussion start there, and addition of sources not start . . . more JR's fault than yours . . . MissPiggysBoyfriend (talk) 18:23, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

@MissPiggysBoyfriend: It's fine, I just found it strange why you didn't add a new level 3 header to the original discussion... and why you're replying here. –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:18, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Feel more than free to move it to a subheader. I'm replying here because that discussion already has way too much crap in it.MissPiggysBoyfriend (talk) 20:23, 29 June 2015 (UTC)