User talk:CFIF/Archive 2

sockpuppet[edit]

please remove the sockpuppet tag you put on my user page. It is completely unfounded. No other user uses this IP address. JianLi 05:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've deleted the sockpuppet label for now - there is no rush to add the label for now. Is there a place where more information about this can be found? --HappyCamper 05:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Previous AfD's on television personality articles. These sockpuppets consistently delete them. [1]. JianLi boted delete, using the "crufty" excuse as these sockpuppets did. --CFIF (talk to me) 12:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I used the word "crufty" because it seemed like part of the jargon of the AFD forums. How is that conclusive evidence that I am a sockpuppet? Just check my user contributions. There are hundreds before my participation in the AFDs and occur months before them too. JianLi 16:17, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I took careful a look at JianLi's contributions. JianLi has edited Wikipedia for almost a year - the concern I have is that the evidence provided to substantiate the sockpuppetry claim is rather interpretative and insufficient. It is also inconsistent with earlier editing patterns. This is also the same for José is Fluid. If the sockpuppetry remains a concern for you, it would be best for you to initiate something at WP:RFCU. The association with Spotteddogsdotorg would probably warrant permanent blocks for these accounts, and until this can be shown more conclusively, I will give these accounts the benefit of the doubt. --HappyCamper 16:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

After a bit more time looking at this, I think the block that Splash later put on José is Fluid is warranted. I put an explanation here.

At first, what I took issue with was the fact that some accounts were labelled as sockpuppets, but not blocked in a timely manner. Without the block, from my perspective, it means that no administrator has taken responsibility for asserting that account X is a sockpuppet. I was a bit worried about your sockpuppet tagging for this reason, especially since it seemed that uninvolved users (like JianLi) were accidentally caught in the situation.

When it comes to dealing with sockpuppets on Wikipedia, there is always an element of controversy associated with them. I hope my questioning of your actions didn't cause too many problems on your end. There are not many users who would volunteer their time to investigate such things, so let me recognize this and thank you for doing what Wikipedia needs to be a healthy place for editing.

--HappyCamper 23:33, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I apologized to JianLi for my actions, anyway, thanks for investigating. --CFIF (talk to me) 23:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/CoolKatt_number_99999[edit]

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/CoolKatt_number_99999. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/CoolKatt_number_99999/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/CoolKatt_number_99999/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 00:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rollosmokes, when will you post your evidence?

I'm having computer problems right now...though it may not seem like it. My regular PC is in the shop, so I'm relegated to my wife's iBook, which for me is hard to work on (I hate Apples/Macs with a passion). I should get my PC back sometime tomorrow (Thursday), so I'll be posting my evidence then...be patient. Rollosmokes 16:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who is this CoolKatt number 99999? I don't want a "war" with people who support him and people who oppose him, but I see his name on a lot of histories on articles and involved in "edit wars".--grejlen - talk 00:45, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect, it's odd you would ask CFIF that question when you could just look at CoolKatt's edit history. I hope you're truly not trying to stir things up. Lambertman 00:53, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion Review Pages[edit]

NEVER MIND. There was an issue with Deletion Review, and you just clicked on the bad button. I've fixed it, and moved your deletion review request for Kathy Fountain to the right place. Fan-1967 21:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TVNT[edit]

I regularly read TVNT, and now it's gone. Do you know where it is? Did it move? And please, archive this monstrous talk page. It's 125KB long! TrackerTV (CW|Castform|Green Valley) 03:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I second the motion for an archive. :) --Firsfron of Ronchester 04:00, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TVNT's still there. I'll see what I can do about archiving it, I'll probably get Werdnabot to do it, because I don't have the time to do it myself. :) --CFIF (talk to me) 11:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TVNT[edit]

I regularly read TVNT, and now it's gone. Do you know where it is? Did it move? And please, archive this monstrous talk page. It's 125KB long! TrackerTV (CW|Castform|Green Valley) 03:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I second the motion for an archive. :) --Firsfron of Ronchester 04:00, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TVNT's still there. I'll see what I can do about archiving it, I'll probably get Werdnabot to do it, because I don't have the time to do it myself. :) --CFIF (talk to me) 11:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

About KALB-TV[edit]

Well alright -- you win!!! But I do want you to know I try my absolute best to provide any information the public might be interested in -- and you also can't leave an article near empty!!! Anyways... Done deal!!! --WIKISCRIPPS2K6 THU MAY 4 2006 8:54 PM EDT

The Other Networks[edit]

Here's a visual picture of my idea:

UPN Network Affiliates in the state of Wisconsin Note: Also in parenthesis along with the station's coverage area is the alternate affiliation following the UPN shutdown -- Effective September 2006
KBJR-DT 19.2 (Superior, MNTV) - WCGV 24 (Milwaukee, MNTV) - WACY 32 (Green Bay, MNTV) - WKBT-DT 41.2 (La Crosse, MNTV) - UPN14 (WISC-DT 50.2) (Madison, MNTV) - WFXS 55 (Wausau, ND)
See also: ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, PBS, WB and other stations in the state of Wisconsin

What kind of visual example did you have in mind??? --WIKISCRIPPS 07 SAT MAY 27 2006 1:01 PM EDT

How would you describe your view on the idea visually??? --WIKISCRIPPS 07 SUN MAY 28 2006 5:19 PM EDT

My Network TV Affiliates in the state of Wisconsin
KBJR-DT 19.2 (Superior) - WCGV 24 (Milwaukee) - WACY 32 (Green Bay) - WKBT-DT 41.2 (La Crosse) - WISC-DT 50.2 (Madison) -
See also: ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, PBS, WB and other stations in the state of Wisconsin

--CFIF (talk to me) 21:34, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The little bar on top -- wouldn't it be a kick to color-coordinate the bar with the network's logo??? What's your take on this??? --WIKISCRIPPS 07 SUN MAY 28 2006 6:13 PM EDT

That's not a bad idea....but what about NBC/CBS/FOX/ABC...not much to color coordinate. --CFIF (talk to me) 22:15, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, let's start with ABC -- black background with white letters...

Next, CBS -- like ABC only do reverse colors...

Then we come to Fox -- white background with the letters typed in whatever color as the letters "F-O-X" appears in the logo itself...

Then finally, NBC white or black background with letters typed using all six colors represented in the peacock logo...

Any questions??? --WIKISCRIPPS 07 SUN MAY 28 2006 6:23 PM EDT

Sounds good. --CFIF (talk to me) 23:46, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now this would also apply to MNTV and CW along with "Other"...

Now for the "Others" category -- this may sound corny but for each state you may want to color-coordinate using colors of the logo reflecting the network with the most affiliated stations in that state!!!

Do you follow me??? --WIKISCRIPPS 07 SUN MAY 28 2006 8:02 PM EDT

That might be tough because I am not good with HTML colors. --CFIF (talk to me) 00:11, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Say, what are these templates called anyways and where can I find them??? Because I'm getting curious!!! --WIKISCRIPPS 07 SUN MAY 28 2006 8:19 PM EDT

I haven't actually made the Florida ones yet...but they would be called "ABC Florida", etc. --CFIF (talk to me) 00:23, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, not that -- the formatting of the templates -- how are they classified and where can I find them??? --WIKISCRIPPS 07 SUN MAY 28 2006 8:27 PM EDT

Not sure...just go for what you have now and if others need to fix it, they will. --CFIF (talk to me) 00:31, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And then there's the subpages[edit]

And he also has these subpages, which show up on Google, Why does he get to keep those when they are entirely fictional and do nothing to contribute to an encyclopedia. --CFIF (talk to me) 18:29, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now, CK has threatened me with an RfC -- on Firsfron's talk page, no less. I'm crapping in my pants at the thought! But check my revision to my talk page and tell me what you think of this. Rollosmokes 08:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree 152.789% with what you said, Rollo. --CFIF (talk to me) 15:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now he's gone off the deep end[edit]

CK has gone ahead and drew up an Request for Comment against me. (sarcastically) I've never been so scared in my life!! Rollosmokes 06:51, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He really needs to get real and realize what a problem he is. --CFIF (talk to me) 13:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The latest update[edit]

A direct quote from CK's latest subpage, written in the third-person:

"CoolKatt number 99999 is not someone whose edits you can revert on the spot. His edits are usually fully legit, and reverting such edits will draw the ire of him. Whereas, BenH usually makes edits that make no sense at all: like adding stub tags to non-stubs, poorly wrote sentences, etc. So, do not revert CoolKatt number 99999's edits without asking permission first." (retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CoolKatt_number_99999/What_CoolKatt_number_99999_is_not")

ASK PERMISSION?!?!?!? Who made him king of the hill? more importantly, who does he think he is? He is no BenH, but he ranks up there with him. Rollosmokes 08:05, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh dear. --CFIF (talk to me) 11:48, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He has threatened me, too![edit]

I seem to be having problems with CoolKatt number 99999, too. Is there anything that can be done? Among other things he has violated WP:OWN. Is there any sanction that can be taken against this problem user? Kramden4700 19:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/CoolKatt number 99999 voice your opinions there. --CFIF (talk to me) 19:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WSVN.png[edit]

The Image:WSVN.png logo is the official logo of WSVN-TV just like the logo WHDH.png is of WHDH-TV. The 150px is a homemade generic logo created by Spotteddogsdotorg that does not have the official FCC identification of either station. I would advise you stop vandalism either articles with your nonsense before I report you an administator and have both pages locked from editing. Leonard23 11:50 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Do yourself a favor and just get over yourself already. You are now sounding downright pathetic. You know there is a such thing as life outside of your computer. Please go live it. Leonard23 2:50 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Something New[edit]

I think we should blow up the current RfC against CoolKatt and start up a new one, because it seems the current one will not result in some kind of resolution (unlike the BenH RfC). CoolKatt is again labelling my edits as vandalism (specifically on WKBS and WGTW) and something really needs to be done. This time, I would like to be the one starting up the RfC. I may even attempt to use mediation as well.

Here's one more gem from CK, from WKBS and WGTW: "!-- Do not remove the merge tag. Doing so is considerd vandalism. --" So, I guess that means anyone who removes HIS mandatory merge tags (or his worthless "trivia") is committing vandalism? You make the call. Rollosmokes 14:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What a real [misguided editor]. Start a new RfC, but label it "CoolKatt number 99999 [RfC #2]" --CFIF (talk to me) 14:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back from vacation[edit]

Now, back to business, as I need your help in backing me up against CK once again. He has managed to make a mockery of WWOR-TV, and David Levy is aparently taking his side. I will be seeking mediation in our dispute, so I'm sure you'll support me in that effort. But, for now, spot me on this one. Rollosmokes 07:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Leave me alone! CoolKatt number 99999 14:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I'm still on vacation, but I'm making some edits in my spare time. I'll see what I can do.... --CFIF (talk to me) 16:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You will do nothing because you will leave me alone or I will file an RfC. CoolKatt number 99999 18:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CK is self-destructing before our very eyes...how refreshing to see him get his just desserts! Rollosmokes 16:11, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your user name seems inappropriate[edit]

Hello. You seem to have an inappropriate username User:CFIF. You make all sorts of broadcast media related edits and may be confused with radio station CFIF-FM. Syolent Mauve 15:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User also crossposted this to WP:AN. I don't believe this is an inappropriate username, he/she (CFIF) may just be a fan of the station. Syrthiss 15:29, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Syolent (Soylent?), you've been a registered editor for 21 minutes and you're trying to oust people because of their username? Uhhh, welcome home, I guess... Lambertman 15:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AGF, Lambertman. We were all new once. ➨ ЯEDVERS

Regardless of how long I have been here, I feeel it may cause some confusion making the contributions of this user seem like they are sanctioned by the radio station. Syolent Mauve 16:23, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that is a VERY narrow view; most people would know a user page if they inadvertantly came across it. - CobaltBlueTony 16:29, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Lambertman is right: you misspelled Soylent. - CobaltBlueTony 16:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The misspelling was intentional. Syolent Mauve 16:56, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How droll. - CobaltBlueTony 19:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I had no freaking clue of CFIF-FM until you told me about it. --CFIF (talk to me) 19:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry about it, CFIF. Even if you had known about it, it would still have been alright. Thanks for your contributions and keep making them! We need you! ➨ ЯEDVERS 19:44, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CookKatt[edit]

Are the legal threats serious, please point me to some examples. Fred Bauder 15:34, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

[2] --CFIF (talk to me) 15:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks[edit]

Thanks so much for voting, CFIF!

Thanks so much for your support vote on my request for adminship! With a final vote count of (82/5/0), it succeeded, and I'm now an administrator! I am thrilled with the overwhelming positive support from the community, and sincerely thank you once again for taking your time to voice your opinion. Feel free to contact me with any comments/suggestions in the future!
—Mets501 (talk) 03:47, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MyWikiBiz discussion[edit]

Please join the new discussion at: "Paid to edit" dialogue -- MyWikiBiz 05:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BenH sock alert[edit]

You remember Ben, right? Get a load of this: 71.2.17.3 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log).

Stubs everything, makes up stuff. I am 99% sure this is Benny. --CFIF (talk to me) 18:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the heads-up on this user, CFIF. There's no reason to blanket stub tags like that. I'm assuming good faith, and have left a message for the user. Hopefully, we'll either hear back, or the user will stop adding stub tags to every article.--Firsfron of Ronchester 18:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/BenH I decided to be proactive on this. I am nearly 100% sure this is him, no one else blanket-stubs and changes dates like Ben. --CFIF (talk to me) 18:48, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to warn you, BenH's last edit was on July 10th, more than a month ago. His contribs may be too old to perform a checkuser.--Firsfron of Ronchester 18:54, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. :( If this user continues, I will be forced to revert every single one of the edits until the user is blocked. Because I don't know if it could be more obvious that it's a sock. --CFIF (talk to me) 18:55, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let's wait for the checkuser results and see what comes back, if anything. Also, thanks for the barnstar. That was really nice of you (yes, I just now noticed it).--Firsfron of Ronchester 19:41, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it was declined, but I'll go to the noticeboard as requested. --CFIF (talk to me) 19:54, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I had a feeling his contribs would be too old. Happy editing! :) --Firsfron of Ronchester 19:56, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, BTW you're welcome on the barnstar, long overdue. --CFIF (talk to me) 20:00, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

-CA/-LP suffixes in market boxes[edit]

A few months ago, you posted an opinion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television Stations that you thought it was important to show the -LP and -CA suffixes in market boxes. I just placed a response opinion there, but wanted to ask why you attach such importance to that. I'm not looking for an argument; I just wish to understand your position better. Thanks. --dhett 16:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edits on your userpage[edit]

Hey CFIF,

Some recent edits on your userpage and on this page indicate you want to run for adminship at some point, but that you feel you'll "sadly... never be an admin". You feel you wouldn't pass muster because you're not a "model Wikipedian". Clearly, your talk page indicates a history of incivility and other issues, but it's also clear you're working on that.

If you are interested in Adminship, I strongly encourage you, CFIF, to consider perhaps adding your name to Wikipedia:Esperanza/Programs#Admin_Coaching. Admin coaching can really get you whipped into editing shape and prepare you for an adminship, and by the time you are assigned a coach (it takes weeks, possibly months), you could be in a very different position than you currently are.

I hope you will not let past editing issues discourage you from wielding the mop some time in the future. There's no reason an editor with a somewhat checkered past can't become a very productive admin, since adminship is supposed to be "no big deal", and with the huge backlogs in many of the admin areas, we need more hands anyway.

Anyway, just some things to consider. Happy editing! :) --Firsfron of Ronchester 23:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks, I'll be sure to check that out! --CFIF (talk to me) 23:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks[edit]

Thanks so much for voting, CFIF!

Thanks so much for your support vote on my request for adminship! With a final vote count of (82/5/0), it succeeded, and I'm now an administrator! I am thrilled with the overwhelming positive support from the community, and sincerely thank you once again for taking your time to voice your opinion. Feel free to contact me with any comments/suggestions in the future!
—Mets501 (talk) 03:47, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MyWikiBiz discussion[edit]

Please join the new discussion at: "Paid to edit" dialogue -- MyWikiBiz 05:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A lack of common courtesy in your crying wolf[edit]

I found that you have made this accusation of a WP:Point violation with out even the common courtesy of leaving a note on my talk page. I took a look into your history of this user and you seem to jump to conclusions rather quickly and without any conclusive evidence; something which I did unlike him acting like the boy who cries wolf. I hope you can give some insight on your standard of proof. On the various deletion pages I stated clear and valid reasons why the articles should be deleted and I have now placed this on my user page as well just to be clear. I do not have a bloody vendetta against all lists, just those which do not meet the established guidelines. I have encountered some pages of lists that I felt did not violate Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a directory. The purpose of deletions is to establish a consensus. How can a consensus be established if a user with out any real evidence screams that the nomination is in bad faith? This adds a bit of doubt to a perfectly valid nomination for deletion that was based on the established guidelines of Wikipedia. I feel that your behaviour is bordering on vandalism. If I decide to take further action I will at least have the common courtesy to leave you a message. Displaced Brit 18:36, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, but I do not appreciate being called a vandal, Sir/Madam. I do not vandalize pages, in fact, you need to do a little bit of policy reading to figure out what vandalism is/isn't. Good Day. --CFIF (talk to me) 18:38, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, what would you call making an accusation in a legitimate deletion vote? Displaced Brit 21:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure, but it isn't vandalism. --CFIF (talk to me) 21:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would like a retraction and apology and hope we can come to some sort of resolution. I trust in future, you shall not jump to conclusions and before you scream "J'accuse." Regardless, I shall keep a keen eye on your behaviour in future. Displaced Brit 22:11, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize. --CFIF (talk to me) 22:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I expect more than two words, as it sounds as if you are just paying lip service instead of being sincere. I also expect you to say on the vairiuos deletion pages that you jumped to a conclusion on and attempted to skew the discussion via your attack. I really find your behsviour childish and I am starting to wonder if you are some fourteen year old with little life expericnce trying to act important, as it is suggested by your patterns of behaviour here. Displaced Brit 15:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you keep it up with your personal attacks and snotty attitude, I don't believe I'm going to expand on what I said further. --CFIF (talk to me) 15:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC) [reply]

I have decided to take the next step and have your behaviour, specifically your tendancy to scream "J'accuse" at the drop of a hat, looked into, something that will no doubt get me on your Nixonian Enemies List. Displaced Brit 15:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, but you continue to stalk me, harrass me, and make personal attacks. I don't scream "J'accuse" at the drop of a hat, and you continue to go out of your way to harrass me. --CFIF (talk to me) 15:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CFIF,

I agree that implying someone is acting like a 14 year old, etc, is incivil, and I guess it could be interpreted as a personal attack. I've left a note on D.B.'s page asking him to assume good faith, explaining that you've apologised already, there's no further need for an apology, etc. I told him you're a good editor and you've already said you're sorry. There's no need for incivility.

However, he is a new user and may not be aware of all the policies on Wikipedia (we've just added another policy, sadly, on Fair Use images, as an aside). So maybe we can cut him some slack here and just assume good faith for now; do let me know if the incivility continues (I'll be watching anyway), but I should also let you know my computer isn't working very well and so I might not be on as often as I usually am, but I will be monitoring the situation as closely as I can. Happy editing! :) --Firsfron of Ronchester 21:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CFIF,

D.B. has again posted to my talk page concerning your post on the Administrators' noticeboard incident page; I urge you not to respond to this latest round, and just continue editing as normal. To your credit, you've apologized, he says he's accepted the apology, and hopefully further ugliness can be averted. --Firsfron of Ronchester 05:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, but if he says anything else it'll all end up at WP:PAIN and/or WP:RfC. --CFIF (talk to me) 15:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]