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Converting portals to more transclusion

Hi BusterD thanks for your message. I'm glad you were pleased with the way the Scotland Portal turned out. It's good to get some positive feedback in these harrowing times, so thanks for that :).

I have maintaned the Scotland Portal since around 2007, but was on an extended Wikibreak for several years from around 2011 / 12, returning around 2016, shortly before WP:ENDPORTALS erupted. That was disheartening, because even though many people call their usefulness into question and claim low readership numbers prove that they are "not wanted", it's just nonsense in my (naturally inclusionist) opinion. The only people who don't want them are the Anti Portal squad, a clear case of WP:IDLI. In my view if even a small percentage of readers find them interesting / useful, well that's a Win-WIn situation. What harm are they doing, if they benefit SOME users? Why the frenzy to delete hundreds of them, not counting the fully automated Portals that TTH went on a rampage with, or the thousands of abandoned useless Stubs littering article space.

Anyway, following my return I was saddened to find the Portal in a state of disrepair, and considerably out of date, so I joined the Portals Wikiproject. I was heartened to find that there were proposals to automate content through Transclusion which would ensure the content was always up to date and reflected the source article precisely. A BIG step forward, I thought, and to be fair to TTH he was instrumental in identifying this problem of sub-page content becoming stale and out of sync with the source. That's one of the primary arguments of the deletion mob, that sub-pages are merely "Redundant Forks", although I disagree, looking at it from the perspective of the true meaning of Fork, in a software souce code sense. A copy is made with the intent of branching out to something entirely new by modifying it - something that was never the intent of any Portal subpages. That however did not address the issue of content being out of sync with the source Article, or the risk of Vandalism of sub-pages spreading un-noticed. So the sub-page model was kind of history I feel, and that's where TTH went crazy, thinking that with the new automated tools he could automate the whole process and create a portal in seconds. It was true, but sadly misguided. But here we are. I'd be happy to give you an outline of the methods I used to re-vamp the Scotland Portal , but it may take some time to set it out clearly. It was a long slow process for me. If it's OK with you I'll document it here on your talk page over the course of the next few days. My only words of advice at this stage are:

  • Concentrate on the way the various templates function, not the LUA modules. Get yourself familiar with what they do and the expected output - use your Sandbox to experiment. Understanding the LUA modules is useful in a sense, but not essential.
  • Work in a piecemeal approach, again in your Sandbox, building up sections as you go. It's probably best to start with the main intro section using {{Transclude lead excerpt}} and then you'll get a feel for it. From Portal: Scotland this wikimarkup is : 
    {{Transclude lead excerpt | Scotland}}
  • For the other sections I used some different templates, mostly transcluding content, but still residing on sub-pages (I think the Selected Quotations section is different). This future proofs against the "Redundant Fork" argument. I'll cover that in the next few days.

I've worked hard to make the Portal as deletion proof as possible, focusing on the objections raised in the various MFD's. But who knows, I'm sure the Deletion Squad will think up some cunning new plan, sadly. I'm not sure which Portals you're working on, but if you want I'd be happy to take a look for you and give you some opinions / options. And if you need any further help, I'm a talk page away.

All the best. --Cactus.man ✍ 22:01, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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Backlog Banzai

In the month of September, Wikiproject Military history is running a project-wide edit-a-thon, Backlog Banzai. There are heaps of different areas you can work on, for which you claim points, and at the end of the month all sorts of whiz-bang awards will be handed out. Every player wins a prize! There is even a bit of friendly competition built in for those that like that sort of thing. Sign up now at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/September 2019 Backlog Banzai to take part. For the coordinators, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Thanks for your support in my recent, albeit unsuccessful, RfA. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:53, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Joseph E. Johnston edit

I covered the reasons and the changes in the talk section there.RRskaReb talk 04:06, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

I have apologized on your talk page. Please try to use edit summaries so that page watchers can understand your intent when significant material is removed with no explanation. Continue to edit boldly, but like any team sport, it is wise to signal your intention to make the workflow easier for others to follow. BusterD (talk) 04:08, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

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Backlog

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

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This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

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Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced

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The Bugle: Issue CLXI, September 2019

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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election half-way mark

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2019 US Banknote Contest

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There are an estimated 30,000 different varieties of United States banknotes, yet only a fraction of these are represented on Wikimedia Commons in the form of 2D scans. Additionally, Colonial America, the Confederate States, the Republic of Texas, multiple states and territories, communities, and private companies have issued banknotes that are in the public domain today but are absent from Commons.

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New Page Review newsletter November 2019

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This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 816 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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New Page Review newsletter December 2019

A graph showing the number of articles in the page curation feed from 12/21/18 - 12/20/19

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

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Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days
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American Civil War Portal

Hey Buster,

Can you tell me why you tagged all of these pages as CSD G6, uncontroversial deletion? Was this portal part of a deletion discussion? Can you point me to that discussion? Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 22:37, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi there! No deletion discussion; the portal isn't being deleted. I'm the maintainer and have been so since 2006. I didn't want the portal to get swept up in the recent spate of deletion requests so I've very recently performed a modernization and updating which avoids many of the arguments often heard in MfD these days. I've moved towards a one page model transcluding excerpts from mostly featured works, so the older sub-subpages are no longer necessary. My csd tagging was strictly intended to remove subpages with no modern function (or in many of these cases never had function). I appreciate your looking out for the portal. In the next few weeks I'm planning to move other portals I maintain over to this more automated (but hand-curated) design. BusterD (talk) 01:59, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
BTW, note that I didn't yet tag all the subpages I eventually want deleted. When I make any major repetitive change I tend to perform the change in stages so that folks who might be watching have an opportunity to respond. I sincerely appreciate your asking about this. BusterD (talk) 02:06, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

                                                 Happy holidays

Happy New Year!
BusterD,
Have a great 2020 and thanks for your continued contributions to Wikipedia.

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– North America1000 21:48, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for kind greetings. I've been re-reading a number of portal discussions this weekend, so I'm properly unimpressed with several editors in retrospect, myself included (my frequent silence implied consent). When we first interacted many years ago, I was struggling with the behavior of several active Article Rescue Squad members, but was disoriented by the energy and positive approach you took in rewriting much of the Squad main project page. I don't always agree with you, but don't remember you ever writing (on talk or edit summary) in an uncivil way. On the Portal/Evidence page I see nothing as of this timestamp which claims you were abusive or even impolite when discussing these contentious matters. You seem to keep your energy in your work. It's an admirable quality, and I (for one) admire you for it. Happy New Year, Northamerica1000! May 2020 be a better year for all of us. BusterD (talk) 22:42, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

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Orphan portal pages

Hello, I noticed that some of your recent edits to reinstate various usages of {{Transclude random excerpt}} have seemingly left a number of subpages orphan, for instance Portal:Hungary no longer uses Portal:Hungary/Featured article, which is now a orphan subpage. If I understand correctly, you established that there is consensus to make such subpages orphan, in favour of the new content presented on the portal page. Therefore, please make sure that these orphan subpages don't keep mixing up with the subpages which are actually in use, otherwise future maintenance becomes very hard: you can mark such subpages as redirects to the base page of the portal, or you could use WP:G6 or similar. Nemo 18:10, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

It's very kind of you to point this out, because I was about to do a bunch more reversions today. I will hold off until I clean up the mess I left behind. Thanks for the feedback. I had been looking for places where User:BrownHairedGirl reverted in a single edit what User:NorthAmerica1000 had spent many edits updating to an improved (if imperfect) form. Thanks to your comment, I will be able to avoid making this mistake again, or at least be able to create a talk page link to all subpages for each portal where an editor could find information now orphaned. Appreciate your help. BusterD (talk) 21:59, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
Ok. Personally I'm not sure all those edits you restored were necessary (some were quite trivial), but I'm all for reducing the number of subpages called by portals. If you decide to ask some mass-deletion of the unused subpages, whether by MfD or other methods, I may be able to help identify them with some database query. Nemo 22:15, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
An example query which appears to find thousands of unused subpages: quarry:query/41656. I may open a discussion about this but I'm still unsure which focus and venue to choose. Nemo 09:50, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Portal reversions

Hi BusterD...

I see that you have made a considerable number of reversions in Portal space, restoring NA1k's version and reversing the actions of BHG. These have been accompanied by the edit summary "Nearly complete arbitration makes it clear these edits by NA1000 were not misconduct, merely the judgement of one editor who overstepped." I don't want to see a new conflict started over Portals, and so I'd like to ask if you sought community support / established consensus for these changes – and if so, where?

The nearly complete ArbCom case deals with conduct only, not content, per the jurisdiction of ArbCom. It does state that evidence of misconduct by NA1k was not found and that BHG violated conduct policies, for which she is banned from the topic or Portals and is being desysopped. However, this does not mean (nor does the PD state) that BHG's edits to those portals were "overstepping," nor does the decision take any position on any of the content issues relating to Portals, beyond calling for one or more RfCs. The discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1020#Portal updates reverted did not, so far as I can tell, establish a conclusion on NA1k's edits or BHG's reversions.

Portals are obviously a contentious topic and the specific reversions that you are making have already been subject to an ANI discussion. I would like to suggest, in line with the advice at WP:BOLD, that this is a situation where "the safest course is to be cautious and find consensus before making changes." If a proper consensus were to support the reversions, I will have no objection to your making them... but in the absence of such a consensus, I ask that you stop and seek consensus before continuing with your actions.

Thank you,

EdChem (talk) 01:37, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

And I thank you for your collegial approach, EdChem. When I make repetitive changes, I almost always take a pause early on to see how others react. I have paused. I did not seek consensus for my changes. I was thanked by an editor while I performed the changes last night, so I did feel some wind at my back. In my changes I edited boldly based on my understanding of the situation, just as I boldly reverted a number of TTH full automation portal conversions several months ago (I was thanked then too). In several cases last night, someone else had already performed the reversion I intended. In a few cases, I was reverting to a User:Kusma version, that editor previously reverting BHG, and she re-reverting Kusma. In each case I changed, BHG had rejected improvement (that is, an increase in quality and transcluded content) by NA1000. In each case, she used a misleading and accusatory edit summary, slurs against NA1K which have not proven justified. By her reverts she slammed the door on improvement on each portal she reverted. And now she can no longer be trusted to edit in portalspace. She DID overstep in this regard. The community has lost a valuable administrator because she still refuses to accept her own part in this. This is a tragedy for the pedia. She has lost my trust. I am saddened by this outcome.
Further, if you were to look at my recent edits you might find that I have made several comments on the Scottywong portal guideline workshop stating my enthusiasm for the gathering of consensus encouraged by the recommendation/suggestion ArbCom approved. I am all about consensus. I've been editing for almost 15 years, have never been blocked, only warned once, am totally uncontroversial and have been one of Wikipedia's few actual portal maintainers for most of my time here. For this I have been subjected to name-calling and othering. Yet I have not sought conflict; I have not edit-warred. Like NA1K, I seek portal improvement, so reverting to his versions seemed the right thing to do, now that the case is virtually concluded. Better I do this than he.
I will continue to maintain and improve portals. I have been doing so for many years. I will not feel the need to get permission to do so. I ache for guidance and have trust the community will soon provide it. I look forward to those discussions. BusterD (talk) 02:47, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020

Hello BusterD,

Source Guide Discussion

The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.

Redirects

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George Eliot

BusterD, I have recently reverted an edit made by you to Adam Bede. There has been a spate of similar reverts to edits made by George Eliot Scholar to articles on George Eliot's novels during the paste week. I fail to understand the spam label. The only objection that is possible, it seems to me, is duplication, or excessive use of external links. On the surface this appears to be a useful scholarly addition: The inclusion of the text of an edition revised by the author. Rwood128 (talk) 12:15, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

We largely agree, @Rwood128:, as I have made clear on User talk:George Eliot Scholar. Note I have welcomed the user and made a statement to any potentially blocking admin that this may not be the correct course. However, the definition of WP:LINKSPAM: "Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam. Although the specific links may be allowed under some circumstances, repeatedly adding links will in most cases result in all of them being removed." This the new user Scholar has definitely been doing. I came at this late (after many others had reverted) and upon looking at the website, like you, found this an acceptable source. I have contacted WP:GLAM and requested help. Any help getting this new user up to speed and actively contributing would be awesome. Please feel free to assist me in bringing the George Eliot Archives into use on those pages, without the use of repetitively inserted external links. BusterD (talk) 13:44, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks. I'll be glad to assist in helping User talk:George Eliot Scholar channel his/her enthusiasm. Rwood128 (talk) 15:24, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, @BusterD: and @Rwood128:, for your willingness to help me! I've taken a brief look at WP:GLAM and while it seems like it's the right direction for me to go, I'm confused about how to connect the George Eliot Archive to the project. Do either of you have more information on this or know who I should contact to pursue this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by George Eliot Scholar (talk • contribs) 20:20, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
You can contact wmnyc: or wmdc: or mail:glam-us. See also outreach:GLAM and m:Wikimedia chapters for more information. Nemo 22:23, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Question

Hi. Why was my edit canceled? Where should I go? I don't know much English, so I can't create an article on my own. I would like to suggest this to members of the English-language Wikipedia. Volodyanocec (talk) 00:54, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

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Seal Team Six

Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Seal_Team_Six. Konli17 (talk) 13:12, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

A question

Hello. I'd like to say that I myself knew Gythem and Coyote and would like it be known that the information was directly from me. Can you please revert the changes on the Seal Team Six page? I already fixed the Vympel page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parker newlin (talk • contribs) 03:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the question. It is Wikipedia policy that we don't use personal knowledge upon which to base assertions on any page. The relevant link is WP:Original research. I appreciate your interest in helping out, but the way Wikipedia articles are built is that wikipedians find WP:Reliable sources, make assertions based on those sources, then build the article on those assertions. BusterD (talk) 12:58, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks and question

Thanks for your kind welcome message. However, since you could have seen from my User Page I'm active since 2004 ... did I do anything to give the impression I didn't know too well what I'm doing or could have done better? If so, I'd certainly like to know precisely, so I can improve. If this on the other hand just intended to populate my hitherto empty user talk page, I'd like to thank you again for your kind words and return the favor. Skuckem (talk) 11:16, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

I didn't notice you have been around a long time (longer than I have been). Sorry for my inattention. I like to welcome new users who are making contributions and when I see a blank user talk page I often turn that link blue with a welcome (or warning if deserved). Thanks for the "hitherto." A great word and not used often enough. Please feel free to make a few more edits. Collegiality and good humor are always appreciated. BusterD (talk) 13:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

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Please Report this IP

Despite us reaching a consensus about the result of The Battle of Cold Harbor, this IP (2605:a601:ad60:8e00:c5a4:b307:a776:9bdd), who I am still convinced is a sockpuppet is Mr. Monroe's, has rejected the consensus without participating in any renewed discussions on the Cold Harbor talk page and is now engaging in an edit war, pushing his ideology in spite of you warning him beforehand. I would please request that you due your diligence and report him.Valkyrie Red (talk) 06:03, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

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A chart of the 2020 New Page Patrol Queue

Year in review

It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.

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2 Rosguill (talk) 63,821 Patrol Page Curation
3 John B123 (talk) 21,697 Patrol Page Curation
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5 JTtheOG (talk) 12,901 Patrol Page Curation
6 Mcampany (talk) 9,103 Patrol Page Curation
7 DragonflySixtyseven (talk) 6,401 Patrol Page Curation
8 Mccapra (talk) 4,918 Patrol Page Curation
9 Hughesdarren (talk) 4,520 Patrol Page Curation
10 Utopes (talk) 3,958 Patrol Page Curation
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updating maps

Thanks. I am actually just cleaning up old work, not trying to edit substantive changes. Happy new year! Hal

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27th New York Infantry Regiment

Hello, I was surprised to see your move here as I am not part of the WikiProject. I'm not quite sure why consistency of names was chosen when it is likely the "real" names of the organizations were not consistent. I'd expect the articles to be named as the unit was known at the time. Or am I missing something? --John (User:Jwy/talk) 07:10, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for inquiring. The issue came up for consensus several months ago and I've been performing this page moves in batches since then. One of the issues is alignment of unit names consistent with Wikipedia manual of style. While it is true than many units used slightly different naming conventions, almost all of them 1) were numbered, 2) identified the state of origin, 3) identified the branch of service 4) identified the size of unit. Often there was an alternative name, like "Tammany Regiment", but for the Military History project, it's important to group these units together in a parallel way. Mostly I'm removing the word "volunteer" because of the previous discussion. Then I'm re-ordering the words so that the sequence is identical. BusterD (talk) 13:26, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Makes sense from your projects perspective, but as one with a more casual interest (my Great Grandfather was adjudant in this particular organization), it would seem to make sense to have the articles named as they were called and use links for the "Military History Standardized Names," but I intend only to be a very low speed bump here, not a brick wall! Thanks for what you do! --John (User:Jwy/talk) 20:22, 1 February 2021 (UTC)


Hello, this is the guy that vandalized the moorefield page, and im sorry about that, it was just a joke, and was clearly not funny, it will not happen again

ps you can delete this when ur done reading it, sorry i didnt know where to msg you :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.27.66.135 (talk) 04:13, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

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American slave owners

Thank you, Buster, for that helpful and constructive reply. I wish others were so positive. Valetude (talk) 11:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

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