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Image copyright[edit]

Hi, just a heads-up that you may be violating Wikipedia's copyright policy by using two copyrighted fair-use images on your userpages (the Pages and Metapackage icons) which are listed as for use only "to illustrate or identify the computer software in question". :) Davidjk (msg+edits) 16:52, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah! Sorry, didn't even cross my mind until you mentioned it. Fixed. Thanks for the reminder. :) --Brad Beattie (talk) 12:42, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

You have made a couple of edits which claim to add columns to the reference section. I can't see any difference. Does this only work on some systems? Rmhermen 18:01, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, take a look at today's featured article, Slate industry in Wales; The same code exists in it's references section. It's pretty common among the featured articles as we can't use the col-start, col-break and col-end on the collected references. Technically, it's code from CSS3. It'll display in Firefox, but not Internet Explorer. --Brad Beattie (talk) 23:19, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tanzan Shrine[edit]

Hi, Brad thanks for the Kemari pics, one of which I have added to Football. Regarding Tanzan Shrine, I just noticed that Sakurai, Nara has a link to Danzan Shrine. I guess this may be a Japanese-to-English transliteration issue(?) Thought you might like to know. Grant65 | Talk 14:30, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Grant. I'm glad you like the photos. I have plenty more if needs be. :) As for Danzan, yeah, that's a translation quirk. I've fixed the link on the Sakurai page in the event we ever want to create an article on Tanzan Shrine. There are also some photos of the shrine on my photography page as a foresight. --Brad Beattie (talk) 14:34, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds perfect. I'm not a Japanese speaker or expert in Japanese culture so I will defer to the experts in this. Grant65 | Talk 02:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I checked with a native Japanese speaker today and apparently both are okay, Danzan might even be better. However, the pamphlet from the actual shrine said Tanzan. Ugh. How about we just stick with Tanzan and redirect Danzan to Tanzan? --Brad Beattie (talk) 02:14, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, just to clarify: I don't speak Japanese. :) I just happen to live here and therefore have access to those who do. --Brad Beattie (talk) 02:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Esperanza![edit]

Welcome, BradBeattie, to Esperanza! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association.

Now that you are a member you should read the guide to what to do now or you may be interested in some of our programs. A quite important program is Stressbusters, which seeks to support editors who have encountered any stress from their Wikipedia events, and are seeking to leave the project. So far, Esperanza can be credited with the support and retention of several users. We will send you newsletters to keep you up to date. Also, we have a calendar of special events, member birthdays, and other holidays that you can add to and follow.

In addition to these projects, several more missions of Esperanza are in development, and are currently being created at Esperanza/Proposals.

If you have any other questions, concerns, comments, or general ideas, Esperanzian or otherwise, know that you can always contact our administrator general Natalya by email or talk page. Consider introducing yourself at the Esperanza talk page! Alternatively, you could communicate with fellow users via our IRC channel, #wikipedia-esperanza (which is also good for a fun chat or two :). If you're new to IRC, you may find help at an IRC tutorial. I thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to work!

Húsönd 04:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

B-day!!!!!!!!!!![edit]

Just a happy Birthday message to you, BradBeattie/Archive2, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

Happy birthday! And Welcome to E@ !!!! Randfan 00:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy birthday, BradBeattie! (Randfan beat me by 14 minutes) Bearly541 talk 00:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Woo! Birthday! --Brad Beattie (talk) 01:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I also would like to extend birthday greetings. Hope you have fun today! Also, I would like to welcome you to Esperanza, I hope you will consider joining one of the many good programs there. – Heaven's Wrath   Talk  04:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia wishes you a Happy Birthday!!

Enjoy your day!!! Enjoy your cake!!! Jam01 05:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday!
  • Have a Happy Birthday! From, Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . 3 09:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just a happy Birthday message to you, BradBeattie/Archive2, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

Have a great day! Steveo2 12:07, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy birthday buddy!--Arjun 20:30, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiGuard[edit]

I'd be happy to test. Looks good so far! --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 00:36, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, happy belated birthday! --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 00:36, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
zOMG1!!11!1!1111! :D Looks excellent! --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 03:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Of course! Of course, for right now I can use popups to revert, if your screenshot shows what I think it does. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 05:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Muahaha! Who says Mac users aren't armed as well as PC users! --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 05:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. One thing that surprised me was this: [1]. This was after I flagged as vandalism, then reverted using popups in Camino. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 00:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You were right about the toolbar part of my picture, although that's not what I was referring to, actually. ;) What I was referring to was the fact that, after I marked an edit to the specified article as vandalism, my edits to the same article also got marked as vandalism. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 01:50, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Also, what does "unload edit" do? O_o --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 01:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah. Apparently, when you close the main window, you can't get it back without reopening wikiguard. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 00:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
One more thing! For the webview, you could leave it in for now so that people who have popups can use them. Also, is it possible to use reversions like in VP? Just a suggestion. :D --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 01:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I do have GTalk. My username is chris.tandiono (with the gmail.com thingy at the end). --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 02:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AfD: Arthur, King of Time and Space[edit]

I'd like to invite you to visit the site and sample the strip at various points in its history. I don't expect to make you abandon your "master-plan" to cleanse Wiki~'s comics covergae, but I do hope to persuade you that this is not a fly-by-night job, adn that the lack of references is probably becausde this is art for art's sake, not art to get the critics babbling about it. Respecfully, Simon Cursitor

I took a look at the site when I nominated earlier today. I'll take another look, but I'm pretty sure the AFD process will give the article a fair case. --Brad Beattie (talk) 15:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Respectfully, I've no doubt it will. However, the AfD process replies, as far as I can see, on nominations, and then the ascription of many contrary views to sockpuppets, ballot-stuffing (and of course AfD ins't a vote) and the like. I was merely hoping that, on reflection, you would either withdraw the nomination, or at least temper your criticism with an acknowledgement that some people may hear of it and come to Wiki~ for more information. Yes, if Wiki~ had a dedicated comix-sub, I'd vote for the article at this length to go there, and a summary remain here. But it doesn't and can't. Sorry to use up your talk-space, but this is one I feel highly about. -- Simon Cursitor
Yeah, I can understand and respect the position that people come to Wikipedia for information, but I have concerns about the notability of many articles that currently exist here. To draw a hyperbole, I'm sure some people have heard of my friend's self-published CD of music, but I wouldn't suggest that it have a page here on Wikipedia. It's all about Notability.
As for the comics, it just so happens that I'm focusing my attention on them first; it's not a specific agenda against that topic. I guess one of the best places to take your concerns about stubs would be WP:COMIC's talk page. I went there a week ago on the subject of Keenspot and Comic Genesis and the discussion was rather fruitful. --Brad Beattie (talk) 15:30, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Brad, I accidentally inserted a comment between your comment and your signature on the AfD page. That was a bit clumsy of me. (I even previewed, too! And, yes, I really will get a username someday, I promise.) I considered fixing it, but I'd rather not clutter up the history page any further – feel free to tweak it if you like.68.250.175.194 21:53, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I share your concerns about letting in things of trivial notability, but I also really worry about the integrity of the AfD process when webcomics are involved. I don't see a good objective measure that draws a bright line between notable and almost-notable webcomics, that also consistently includes webcomics we subjectively know are important. I've read and thought about WP:WEB quite a bit, and I'm not trying to debate it, I'm just worried about the outcome for webcomics as a class. (Comics that have print analogs seem easier to deal with for obvious reasons.) In your opinion, is there room in Wikipedia for subjective evaluations of notability?68.250.175.194 21:53, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi![edit]

Thanks for your nessage, I've been really busy for a few months but I'll be back to normal now things are a bit quieter. Seivad 15:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I can totally understand when other things take priority. Do what you can, don't let things get too stressful and it all goes smoothly. :) Anywho, good to have another contributor back. --Brad Beattie (talk) 15:33, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! :)[edit]

That user seems to be on a vandalism spree... I'm keeping tabs on him. :)

Have a great day! Srose (talk) 15:59, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WHY??????[edit]

omg i add good stuff — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.195.201.2 (talkcontribs)

FlyMonarchVirtual[edit]

Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i'm not paige williams.[edit]

i'm an admirer of her work and thought wikipedia could use an article on her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karmacop6890 (talkcontribs)

WikiGuard not working?[edit]

NO!!! It's..."just not working", to quote some of my friends on their computers (not WikiGuard). Maybe IRC is down? D: --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 17:48, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here we go:
2006-11-12 09:37:40.608 WikiGuard[1052] Connecting to server...
2006-11-12 09:38:12.016 WikiGuard[1052] connection error: (null)
2006-11-12 09:38:12.018 WikiGuard[1052] Error connecting. Will retry.
Yeah, when that happens it legitimately can't connect and will retry. Just let it run and it'll keep retrying. --Brad Beattie (talk) 03:09, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hrosvit[edit]

Dear BradBeattie,

an extreme edit of Hrosvit took place on 20:26, 13 November. I replaced the erased links to other languages and external sources. Although I have contributed to Wikipedia on and off for the past few months, I don't know how to react to this...a fairly good medium-sized biography suddenly lost over half of its content. Could you look at the situation? Thank you. Robertwalton 23:15, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to WikiProject CS[edit]

Hi! Just noticed that you have signed on as a participant in WikiProject Computer science, and wanted to welcome you to the project. Please stop by the project talk page to see what the other participants have on their minds right now, and to add your own thoughts. --Allan McInnes (talk) 04:53, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'll do that. --Brad Beattie (talk) 04:54, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have one new barnstar![edit]

The E=mc² Barnstar
A barnstar for one of the most interesting articles I have ever seen: 0.999.... Well done! --lE☺N2323 22:47, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Woo! Thanks much. It's greatly appreciated. --Brad Beattie (talk) 00:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging orphaned images[edit]

Hey there... You should only be tagging images with {{subst:orfud}} when the image is copyrighted and when it is not used in an article. Images that are tagged as public domain or released under the GFDL do not qualify for the speedy tag. ORFUD stands for orphaned fair use deletion. I am going to reverse your tagging on the images.--Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr.) 14:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah! Understood. A slight confusion between fair use and GFDL'd images. My bad. --Brad Beattie (talk) 14:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Request for feedback[edit]

Hey Aeropagitica, about a month ago I made an RFA that you provided feedback on. I'm just wondering if you could spare a couple minutes to take a look at how I'm doing so far. It'd be much appreciated. Thanks! :) --Brad Beattie (talk) 04:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look in a day or two, when I can spare some time to give you proper attention. (aeropagitica) 22:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No rush. It's much appreciated. :) --Brad Beattie (talk) 01:50, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of formal tone?[edit]

Hi, just wandering if you can provide me quotes of "lack of formal tone" as you mentioned in your review. Thanks. Dorians1 02:41, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to see if you had changed your views concerning the AfD for The Wiseguys: Comedy You Can't Refuse. There have been major edits performed to the enrty in an attempt to meet Wikipedia:Notability (comedy) since your comment on the talk page. Any additional comments would be appreciated in the effort to make the entry comply.

Thank you for your consideration. Apatronoftruth 18:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Osaka Art Museum, and other edits[edit]

Thank you for your input on the additonal information I added to several Japanese articles. The information that was partially transcribed, and was also rewritten was extracted from Press Releases issued by the entities involved. A Press Release from the architect of the Osaka Museum, whose office is in CT, was also sent out regarding this project a number of times to trade journals and art institutions. If the information is contained, verbatim in a Press Release, I had thought that meant it was intended to be re-published. I am most appreciative of your comments. Thank-you (Dommo arrigato gozimasta). — Preceding unsigned comment added by MissionCreek (talkcontribs)

Polynomial[edit]

Hi, thanks for your image. However, the reason why my image had no labels and was rather simple was to enable the illustration of the basic shapes of certain polynomials without distracting features. Your image looks a little out of place now on the polynomial article – scroll down to the part where there's a whole lot of them. Let me know what you think. I guess a way forward would be to recreate the rest of them? Of course, the best option would be to create new ones in SVG format instead of new ones in PNG. Cheers. enochlau (talk) 23:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hrm, yeah. I see what you mean. Certainly there's a need for consistency as it does look a little out of place right now. Obviously I'm going to have a bit of bias in the one I created, but I think that labeling the axes gives a more complete graph without adding too much to the complexity of the image. I'll revert my change for now just as a matter of consistency. As for SVG images, that would be awesome, but I don't have any tools with which to make them. Know any good ones out there? --Brad Beattie (talk) 01:03, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've toyed with Inkscape before, but I'm not that good at using it. Since we want pictures of real polynomials, you'd have to find some kind of way to put the bitmap graphs into the program and tracing over it with vector lines. enochlau (talk) 03:32, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Another thing: usually, when you create a new version of an image, if it's completely new remake of it, you should upload it under a different filename. Uploading on top of an old image usually only occurs for direct enhancements on the original image. enochlau (talk) 09:00, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Safari Userbox[edit]

Okay, sorry about that. I just don't see how thats wrong, the Firefox one seems to be tolerated. But if you must. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fliptopsean (talkcontribs)

Take a look at the licensing on File:Firefox-logo.png vs File:Apple Safari.png. One indicates free use in this case, one is restricted only to fair use on the article page. --Brad Beattie (talk) 01:19, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thanks man : ) --Fliptopsean, a.k.a. Face 03:42, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image tagging for Image:Sparkssmall.jpg[edit]

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Expert-portal[edit]

Thanks for making more specific links in {{expert}} templates, like here, but note that few if any mathematicians hang around at the mathematics portal. The correct link is the math wikiproject, at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics. Wonder what you think. You can reply here, thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:05, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there Oleg. Take a look at the modifcation I made to the template. Hopefully that should address your point. :) --Brad Beattie (talk) 16:11, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that looks better. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Osaka Science Museum[edit]

I've finished the translation of Osaka Science Museum you requested. --Grgcox 23:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! That's much appreciated. :) --Brad Beattie (talk) 00:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User Page[edit]

I had a user page and I tried to add boxes, etc. to it, using your page as a guide. However, my main picture is not centered, and two of the boxes are showing {{{3}}}. Could you provide some assistance? Thanks a lot! (If you will provide help, please post a message on my talk page.) s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk contribs 15:36, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm, yeah. The difficulty with that divbox template is that it's a little fragile when you start doing funky things inside of it. If you're sold on the idea of doing your funky things inside of the boxes, I'd suggest using a table with the style set to divstyleCOLOUR as per the code for the right-hand side. Want me to muck around with your page and get it working? --Brad Beattie (talk) 15:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Do whatever you would like to it. Thanks again! s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk contribs 15:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Also, could you provide me with a link to a Wikipedia page that can show me how to format pages? s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk contribs 16:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You mean WP:STYLE? --Brad Beattie (talk) 16:20, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk contribs 16:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My page looks great! Thank you for your time and effort. s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk contribs 16:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Kay. I'm pretty much done fixing up the page. I'd suggest against having that header at the top as it disrupts the visual flow, but whatever floats your boat. Anywho, lemme know if you need anything else. Cheers! --Brad Beattie (talk) 16:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think I will spend a little more time with it. I have sent a request to SuggestBot-do you know how long it takes for a reply (I see some suggestions on your talk page)? s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk contribs 16:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It took about a week, as best I can recall. --Brad Beattie (talk) 16:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Since you have provided me with a heap of assistance, I hope you don't mind that I added you to my list of contacts. s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk contribs 16:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
By all means. If you need my help again, just ask. I'll do what I can. :) --Brad Beattie (talk) 16:55, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to notify you that your simple box solution helped Tone. s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk contribsHappy Thanksgiving! 01:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What can I say? I'm flattered. --Brad Beattie (talk) 08:07, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the n00b[edit]

Brad, I've altered the article on The noob to include three refrences which meet the notability guidelines as specified, and created external links to the references so that they can be reviewed. Can I get you to change your mind on the AFD page? Timmccloud 16:28, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AfD[edit]

Thanks for nominating a ton of articles for deletion, great job you're doing for the world there. These books aren't notable enough -- burn them! 70.181.45.122 10:53, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, which articles are you referring to? --Brad Beattie (talk) 11:15, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My edit mistake on the admin coaching page[edit]

Sorry. WikieZach| talk 03:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks[edit]

I would like to express my appreciation of the time you spent considering my successful RfA. Thankyou Gnangarra 13:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Popups and reverting vandalism[edit]

Winter in Waterloo, Ontario, 2004

Hey, thanks for pitching in on the ever-present defense from vandalism. Look out for popups though as it occassionally reverts to the wrong revision. On a side note, how's the weather in Ottawa this winter? I seem to be escaping a Canadian winter here in Japan. :) --Brad Beattie (talk) 17:29, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops! Thanks for picking that up. I really need to stop reverting when I'm in a hurry. Winter in Ottawa hasn't been too bad so far – no snow yet, though it's just a matter of time. Eron 17:33, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Any time. :) Just be sure to pull out the scarf in time. Before you know it, it's going to look like this picture here. --Brad Beattie (talk) 17:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support at RFA[edit]

I wasn't going to send thank-you cards, but the emotional impact of hitting WP:100 (and doing so unanimously!) changed my mind. So I appreciate your confidence in me (especially since you obviously did review my contributions before doing so, per your talk page comment find), and hope you'll let me know if I can do anything for you in the future. Cheers! -- nae'blis 21:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have no doubt that you'll do well in this new role. As for the WP:100 (or 104 in this case), congratulations! --Brad Beattie (talk) 23:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA[edit]

Oh, the humanity!

I had my doubts about a second RfA, but even I couldn't have predicted the way it caught fire and inexorably drifted to the ground in flames, causing quite a stir on its way down. Still, it was encouraging to see the level of support and confidence. Thank you for yours, and I hope I'll still have it the next time around. Kafziel Talk 13:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiGuard[edit]

Hey

Thanks for your message about WikiGuard. I'm at work at the moment, and we're using XP on PCs so I'll have to wait until I get home to give it a go, but I'd be delighted to trial it for you and provide feedback! Cheers! Budgiekiller 08:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That would be most appreciated. Thanks much! --Brad Beattie (talk) 08:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, slight problem, I'm still working on OS X 10.3... I must upgrade soon! Budgiekiller 08:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah! That would be an issue. The app uses Core Data, which requires 10.4 if I'm not mistaken. Ah well, the thought was nice anyway. :) --Brad Beattie (talk) 08:15, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Admin coaching[edit]

You're it! :) Why don't you start an admin coaching subpage and then we'll get started. Cheers, Fang Aili talk 15:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks much! The page has been created as requested. :) --Brad Beattie (talk) 15:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thought you might want to know about this it has the same goals as Wikipedia:WikiProject Photography, but is better organized. --Gphototalk 18:29, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]