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Ways to improve Tennessee State Route 105

Hello, BDAN88,

Thanks for creating Tennessee State Route 105! I edit here too, under the username Willsome429 and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:-

While I do believe the topic is notable enough to have a page there need to be more sources and less swaths of unsourced content (Obion/Dyer Counties, Gibson County).

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Hello Willsome 429,

Thank you for the suggestion but the references go for the entire article, not just the Carroll County section. But, thank you for being very kind about this.

Sincerely, BDAN88.

Bold text outside of the lead

Please stop using boldface text in the route description section of a highway article. Our Manual of Style, specifically MOS:BOLD, says that we shouldn't use boldface text outside of the lead section. I get that other articles do that, but they're wrong and should be changed. Imzadi 1979 → 23:38, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

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Can you please explain to me why my article has been nominated deletion. I really do think you mean well but can you at least give it a chance. It didn’t even last 3 minutes before you proposed it for deletion. I am from East Tennessee, born and raised, and this is a particular passion of mine to provide a complete list of articles on every state route in Tennessee, especially in this part of the state, as it is done in other states. Please don’t delete this.

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A wish list

You've been creating a lot of new articles on highways in Tennessee. In the process, you're creating some future clean up work for yourself or other editors. If I could give you a quick wish list of things to change:

• Please use the {{convert}} template to display the metric conversion for customary lengths. Additionally, has the ability to handle proper English grammar for adjective forms.
• There should be a dash in "north–south" or "east–west". If you can't easily type one from your keyboard, there's a link to insert one below the editing window.
• We should never use just a plain URL for a citation. This promotes link rot.
  • With a link to Google Maps, we have {{google maps}} that supplies all of the details and formatting if you add in |url=, |title=, and |access-date=. If for some reason you have multiple citations to Goole Maps, you can add |link=no to the second and subsequent footnotes so that "Google" and "Google Maps" aren't wikilinked.
  • For other maps, there is the generic {{cite map}}. In that template you should provide |author=, |date= (or |year=), |title=, |url=, |scale=, |location=, |publisher=, |access-date=.

If you can add these things at a minimum, like I did here, the result will be a lot friendlier to readers, and it will be less clean up work for someone else in the future. Imzadi 1979 → 17:36, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

In your many article creations, you have written a variation on the same basic sentence that is grammatically incorrect. When using a length to describe a road, you are using that length as an adjective. In {{convert}}, you should use |adj= to output the length as an adjective. Instead of "a 9.8 miles (15.8 km) long north-south state highway" in Tennessee State Route 436, it should read either:

• "a 9.8-mile (15.8 km) north–south state highway"; or
• "a 9.8-mile-long (15.8 km) north–south state highway".

The first version uses |adj=on, and the second uses |adj=mid|-long. Whenever these new articles come across User:AlexNewArtBot/USRoadsSearchResult, I'll tag them with the talk page banner for WP:USRD, and for a while, I was cleaning up formatting and grammatical errors, but I grew tired of doing so. It would be helpful if in the future you could use this formatting tweak when using {{convert}} so that the output is grammatically correct. Imzadi 1979 → 22:01, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

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Infobox road vs. infobox road small

On "listicles" like Special routes of U.S. Route 31, the individual mini articles within the list use {{infobox road small}}. We would only use {{infobox road}} at the top of the overall page, or at the top of stand-alone highway articles. Imzadi 1979 → 21:45, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

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Newfoundland and Labrador highway article issues

The collection of articles are following some poor editing and writing choices. Good highway articles in general follow a different formula called the "Big Three". They are:

1. A route description (RD) that lays out, in prose, where the roadway is routed from one end to the other. This is where we would describe, in prose, the communities which a roadway serves, with context. A bulleted list of communities lacks that context and does not help a reader unless he or she is going to read our articles with a map sitting next to the computer. Attractions along the length of the highway should be mentioned in this section, naturally and neutrally in the flow of the prose.

   This is honestly the easiest section of an article to write, and it's normally the first content written for an article.

2. A history section that describes the major changes from the designation or construction of the road to the modern day.
3. The "road junction list" (RJL) that lists the junction in tabular form.

   This is normally the first section actually created with its own header. (The nascent RD tends to stay merged with the lead until later.)

From time to time, good road articles get other standard sections that aren't in the Big Three, like a future section describing the confirmed plans to change the highway in the future. There are some less common and slightly non-standard sections that can be added where appropriate, like one dedicated to the history of the memorial highway designations or one dedicated to the historic bridges along the roadway. These other sections are all written in prose

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The see also section is also a bit problematic. Links to the "List of highways numbered X" entries are rarely helpful. Readers are not typically going to navigate from a Route 100 and want to read about others with the same number. Even repeating the link to the master list for the province wouldn't be useful since its prominently at the bottom of the infobox. So normally we'd only include portal links in the see also (the proper location) or skip the section totally.

So in short, the bulleted lists are just padding the visual length of the articles, and without context, they're not useful. The see also sections are also not serving their proper function, which is to direct readers to other directly related articles not already linked in the body of the article (including the lead and infobox). Turn those lists into proper RD sections, provide the missing context, and readers will benefit, but sometimes it's better to say less and say it well than to confuse and turn away readers. Imzadi 1979 → 21:32, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

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Mississippi Highway 606

I have not been able to find a source supporting that Highway 606 is along Lake Boulevard, and neither of the sources you cited support this either. Google Maps shows Highway 606 here. Could you please give me some details? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:03, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

That is nothing more than a narrow county road maintained by Alcon County. Not maintained by the state, nor designated by the state. Not sure why this comes up on a Google search (even when it is marked on Google Maps as County Road 606). Thanks for the quick check and info though. BDAN88 (talk) 22:09, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Even signed in the field as Alcott County Road 606 here [1] BDAN88 (talk) 22:23, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Do you have a source to support Mississippi Highway 606? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:39, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

[2]

Scroll halfway down to state highway lengths and it gives a description of the road (along with all other state highways in the state). BDAN88 (talk) 22:42, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

You wrote: "Beach Boulevard, maintained by the city". Where is the source for this? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:57, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Well it's not maintained by the state, nor part of MS 606, and its in the city limits of Bay St. Louis, doesn't leave a lot of agencies left. BDAN88 (talk) 23:00, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

How do you know it's not maintained by the state? It's a state highway. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:09, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

If you actually read the article you would find it says the state maintained portion of Beach Boulevard is MS 606. Beach Boulevard continues north past the eastern end of MS 606 and state maintenance (at US 90) into some neighborhoods along the southern and western coastline of the Bay of St. Louis. THIS IS THE SECTION THAT IS CITY MAINTAINED. BDAN88 (talk) 23:14, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Before I delete that entire section from the article, I will ask you again, what is your source to support that? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:16, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

I will do it myself. Don't wear yourself out. Please go bother somebody else. BDAN88 (talk) 23:18, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Mississippi Highway 338

I haven't seen that done on any other highway articles. Yes, we've covered previous uses of the designation in the history, but we haven't put an infobox or a junction list in the history section like that.

Regarding an infobox in the history section, normally they're a previous designation for the same roadway as the modern highway: CR 553 on M-553, etc.

With the extra RJL, it has the side effect that you break up the topic, visually interrupting an article on the modern highway with an RJL about essentially a different article. (That's why business routes merged to their parent highways should be listed last so that the flow is about the parent first.)

At the very least, that part should be moved lower in the article, or honestly, spun out into a separate article called Mississippi Highway 338 (1960–1962) if that content could be expanded a bit more. Imzadi 1979 → 16:40, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Hurricane, Mississippi

Why did you create Hurricane, Mississippi, and then redirect it to another community? Please look here, and at associated maps. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:07, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Esperanza, Mississippi, you may be blocked from editing. Please stop your disruptive editing. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:39, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

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SK highways

Hello. I noticed you added some SK 600 and 700 series highways to Wikipedia:Requested articles/Applied arts and sciences/Transport. I'll gladly get working on them. I'm wondering, though, do you know of any sources I can work from? Thanks! Masterhatch (talk) 11:58, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Honestly, I just was flipping through those articles and noticed them in the junction lists and figured they were worth investigating further. BDAN88 (talk) 00:20, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Cool. When I get some time, I'll see if I can locate them on Google Maps and get something going. Masterhatch (talk) 00:40, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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