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Boy, am I happy to see you[edit]

It's good to have you on the Killer Whale article. Cheers! Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 09:11, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'm enjoying finding out how little I know about the subject. I'm somewhat in awe of the work you've done here (and elsewhere on Wikipedia). Thanks for being so welcoming. -- Avenue (talk) 13:40, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the kind words! Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 07:06, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NZ Religion line chart[edit]

Hi Avenue, I left a note at Commons:File talk:Religious affiliation in New Zealand 1991-2006.svg, Others 2001, 2006 ought to be 4.225, 5.447. XLerate (talk) 01:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. I've replied on the Commons page. -- Avenue (talk) 02:43, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nice chart you've made there. Perhaps it could be a bit bigger and clearer in terms of colours? I'm not sure if there are WP standards for such charts... do you know? Also, have you checked to see how well it prints out? Tayste (talk - contrib) 08:52, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. It's easy enough to make it bigger or smaller by forcing it to display at a different size. Or if you mean making the text and symbols bigger relative to the chart, there are options available for controlling this, but it might be easier to just alter the dimensions passed to the svg function. (The source code is on the chart's talk page.)
I'm not sure what you mean by "clearer" colours. I've used the default palettes provided for these line and bar charts, which I believe are respectively the "Set2" and "Accent" qualitative palettes from http://www.colorbrewer.org. I didn't put a lot of thought into this, but they seemed reasonable to me at the time, and still do. A qualitative palette is appropriate for the nominal "Religion" variable, and the line graph benefits from darker shades than the bar chart (although perhaps these could still usefully be intensified, and the background lightened). Both palettes are listed as being good for color printing.
I'm aware of some conventions for WP maps, but not for graphs and charts. -- Avenue (talk) 11:57, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It was the pale colours on a grey background that I wondered about. I've just found guidance at Wikipedia:How_to_create_graphs_for_Wikipedia_articles and Template_talk:Probability_distribution#Standard_Plots. I created SVG images for Binomial distribution nearly two years ago and I'm chuffed to see they're still in use. Maybe I'll tackle some of these: Category:Images_that_should_be_in_SVG_format. Tayste (talk - contrib) 22:45, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, good point. I've changed the background for the line graph to white, which I think makes it uglier but more legible. Thanks for the links. The bar chart probably wouldn't meet the colour guidelines with just a background change, so I may need to do a bit more there. -- Avenue (talk) 13:10, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

I know you know you're awesome, so I'll save the praise, but thanks again for all the help with Nevado del Ruiz. Hard to believe it's closing in on a year since FA promotion. I also have a question, which source is this from? ceranthor 20:27, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, how did I miss that!? It's from the USGS page cited elsewhere (although that talks of three quarters dying, which I rephrased as one quarter surviving). Now fixed. Thanks for spotting that, and for the kind words. -- Avenue (talk) 22:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AN/I[edit]

Hi, I just wanted to say I have really appreciated your photos over the years, and I'm sorry to see you being dragged through AN/I at the moment. -- Avenue (talk) 01:20, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Avenue. I am crying now over your kind message here. It is strange I have not cried the whole day today at all, while I was unfairly being attcked by so many, and now I am crying because you are kind to me. Strange, isn't it? Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 01:25, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I didn't mean to make you cry! :-) I can see this has been stressful for you. Maybe a short walk in the sunshine would help (if the weather is cooperating where you are)? Best wishes, Avenue (talk) 03:04, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Avenue, I've decided to move your messages and my responses here because I am going to ask my own talkl page to be deleted. I hope my moving this thread to your talk page is OK with you. If it is not, please do forgive me, and please feel absolutely free to delete it. Thank you one more time for your understanding and your kidness. There are rains, where I am, check users could confirm it, the know where I live :( Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:30, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Of course you are welcome to move the thread here. I'm sorry, I hadn't noticed you changing your status to retired when I wrote that last message. I hope that the fact you haven't changed your commons pages means I might see more of your photos there sometime. Anyway, thank you so much for all your past contributions. (I just noticed today that there was one of your photos in an article I've been working on.) Best wishes, Avenue (talk) 04:07, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
You were the first one, who has told them that me is me, when I was no longer sure about that myself :), and you have continued to support me ever since in spite of the horrible thing I have done. Thank you very much for your kindness and your understanding! --Mbz1 (talk) 03:27, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're very welcome. I wish I had noticed the mess at AN/I earlier. While you did go too far, you were in a lot of distress, and I don't believe you meant to cause such worry. I hope you will not be too hard on yourself about it. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. Of course you are welcome to email me if you would like to talk off-wiki. -- Avenue (talk) 04:06, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Rainier[edit]

Hi Avenue; Did you intend to restore the content in the "References" section?[1] Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 01:19, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oops! No, I did not. Thanks for telling me! -- Avenue (talk) 01:24, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Autoreviewer[edit]

Hi Avenue.
As I'm sure you know, you've made 62 articles on the English Wikipedia. I have therefore decided to nominate you to be an autoreviewer. Good luck! --The High Fin Sperm Whale 22:01, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, Avenue! You are now an autoreviewer. It won't affect your editing much though. You can read WP:Autoreviewer for more details. --The High Fin Sperm Whale 22:38, 13 February 2010 (UTC)--The High Fin Sperm Whale 22:38, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That was fast! I had no idea I had created 62 articles; I would have guessed less. Maybe this will prompt me to do a few more. -- Avenue (talk) 06:53, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations!--Mbz1 (talk) 06:45, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Avenue, I saw you've done some work on Mavericks (location). Thank you! I started a gallery. Some of the images only show spectators, but IMO it is important too. Many people, who come to see the waves, do not realize that they are so far off the shore that one actually needs a good binoculars to see them. Also most people do not realize that to actually see anything at all one should climb a very steep cliff (beach is too low to see the waves behind other waves). I will upload few more images for the gallery in the next few days. If you believe the article will be better off without the gallery, please tell me, and I will delete it. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 06:52, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. I first came to the page after reading about the people on the beach who were knocked down, lost cameras etc, and I wondered if you might have been there. From your photos, I guess at least your camera is okay. Hope you are too.
I think the gallery is fine. I'm not generally among those who object that they're unencyclopedic, not when they show a variety of good photos. Thanks for uploading yours. I hope you didn't mind me moving one of your pictures aside to make room for the images I added. I was having trouble following the section on the sea floor without the maps, and I thought they might help others too. Best wishes, Avenue (talk) 00:04, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Avenue. Of course I do not mind you moving my image. I was in a different location, when the waves hit the beach, not even close to the beach. One could hardly see anything from the beach at all. I watched the waves for two days, both times from the cliffs, but those cliffs are few miles appart from each other. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 00:16, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Taupo Volcanic Zone - Image[edit]

I corrected the labeling. The Mangakino south caldera seems ok for me. The proportions are ok in relation to the Waikato river. Maybe the old/ invisible calderas are locations of the magma chambers, the caldera rims are not visible anymore. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 10:53, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your kind words on Talk:Taupo Volcanic Zone‎, it was a challenge for me. I wanted to understand TVZ. The image is a bit better now, much more I can not really. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 14:03, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for fixing the labels. I'll try to respond in more detail about the image on its talk page later today. -- Avenue (talk) 22:46, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Hi Avenue, thank you for working on the article! I wrote one more that might be of interest for you Ronald Levy. Best wishes,--Mbz1 (talk) 22:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. I thought the strongest criticism in the AFD nom was the sourcing, so I decided the best way I could improve the list's chances was by dealing directly with that. It looks like this may have influenced at least one keep vote,[2] so I'm happy. The other article was an interesting read, thanks.-- Avenue (talk) 05:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Avenue, thank you for continuing to work on the article. Have you seen this one. Looks like the number of Laureates you've provided not quite right. Best, --Mbz1 (talk) 06:09, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I did see that page. I presume you mean the figure of 806 prizes awarded. Did you also see the figure there of 802 prize winners? I thought the latter was more appropriate, since it makes the statements in our article a bit simpler and easier to read. But it doesn't make much difference either way. Feel free to change it back to the number of prizes if you want. -- Avenue (talk) 06:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
According to this there were 180 Jews, who won the prize. I'd rather left percent alone at least for now. The article is nominated for DYK and the pecent number (22) is in the hook. What do you think? Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 06:39, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It seems more productive to me to update the proposed hook if it turns out to be incorrect. Once it hits the main page, simple errors and inconsistencies will probably be picked up pretty quickly, and it would be nice to root them out first if we can.
Of the three numbers in the proposed hook (750, 162 and 22%), the first is clearly wrong. It's hard to imagine a better source for this than your link above. I don't have an opinion yet on what the second number should be (180, 162, or something else), as I haven't looked through the various sources yet. The "at least" qualifier seems like a good idea here, given the difficulty of tying the exact number down. The percentage figure should be consistent with the other two, and it currently is, but it won't be if we only change the 750 figure to 802 or 806. -- Avenue (talk) 08:07, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I did.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:08, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that does tie up better with the current lead-in to the list. I think it's still unclear on a couple of points, though: that the 802 figure is the number of people winning the prize, not the number of prizes awarded, and that the figures refer to individual people, and exclude organisations. I'd suggest revising it to something like this:
What do you think? (Sorry it's taken me a while to reply.) -- Avenue (talk) 00:39, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, Avenue, the template you left at my talk page was not ugly at all, and cannot go to any comparison to
this one for :example :)


You know I changed the numbers in the hook as you suggested, but did I understand you right, and you believe I should change the text from
"...that from 802 Nobel Prizes that have been awarded at least 162 (approximately 20%) were awarded to
to scientists, doctors, writers, economists, poets, etc. of Jewish ethnicity"
to "...that of the 802 individual Nobel Prize winners, at least 162 (20%) were of Jewish ethnicity?
BTW did you see I added alternative hook? I like the first one much better, but some still claim that the sources are not reliable enough.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:12, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's only a suggestion. Since you started the list and have done most of the work on it, I don't feel I should change the hook myself, or tell you what it should say. I do have two substantive concerns about the current version, though.
First, it talks in terms of prizes awarded, but uses the total number of prize winners (802) instead of the number of prizes awarded (806). The difference is because a few people were awarded the prize twice. (None of them were Jewish, as far as I know.) To fix this inconsistency, I think either the overall number should change to 806, or the hook should be reworded to speak about prize winners, not prizes awarded. (If the number changes to 806, it then becomes inconsistent with the list's lead section, but that can be revised too.)
Secondly, the figures are not for all Nobel Prize winners or prizes awarded, but only for prizes awarded to one, two or a few people (not to an organisation as a whole). I added the word "individual" to reflect this.
The rest of the changes I suggested (e.g. cutting the "scientists, doctors, writers, economists, poets, etc" part) were just a stylistic choice. I generally prefer to keep things short, perhaps too short sometimes.
But, as I said, I think of the list as your baby at present, and I don't want to pressure you to make any changes you do not feel comfortable with. I won't be offended if you choose to ignore my suggestion.
I did see the alternative hook you added. I didn't like it as much as the original hook either, because it seemed only weakly related to the list's topic. -- Avenue (talk) 10:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I will change it, as you suggested. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:23, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Desargues[edit]

Thanks for pointing out the flaw in the image at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Desargues theorem.svg. I've made an alternate to account for it. Could you re-evaluate? Jujutacular T · C 23:18, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for fixing that problem. I've now thought of another issue, which I've detailed on the FPC page. -- Avenue (talk) 09:15, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Barnstar of recovery
I award you with this barnstar of recovery for your continues work on the article List of Jewish Nobel laureates during it deletion review --Mbz1 (talk) 01:24, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. It's been a pleasure to learn something about the people behind some of these famous names. Thank you too! (for all your hard work, and your patience with my ignorance about the context.) -- Avenue (talk) 06:30, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for List of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners[edit]

Updated DYK query On March 10, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article List of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

I included you in my DYK nomination, but a silly bot gave credit to me only. So, here it is. Thanks again for your help!--Mbz1 (talk) 14:37, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Thank you for being so generous in crediting me. I feel a bit embarrassed, actually, as I've generally only tinkered around the edges of this long list you put together, so I think you deserve much more of the credit than I do. Did you get to see it while it was up on the main page? -- Avenue (talk) 23:15, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No I did not. It was night in USA.Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:53, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Inside the Tarawera rift.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 20:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A time for another one :)[edit]

The Special Barnstar
I award you with this Special barnstar for your help and support in few places for the last few days. Thank you!--Mbz1 (talk) 04:02, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disclosure,[edit]

How about you disclose the fact that you've been in contact with Mb for awhile, like all her victims were so nice to disclose themselves. If you fail to do so, I will.. Well, I already have, but I'll do it in greater detail if you refuse to.— dαlus Contribs 08:52, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting to that, as you'll see once I've !voted on your proposal. -- Avenue (talk) 08:56, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, now I believe I'm going to force myself onto a wikibreak, as this has caused too much stress already.— dαlus Contribs 09:24, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not yet, actually. I still need someone to cover my post at the WF98 log.— dαlus Contribs 09:30, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry if my comments have added to your stress. I have been trying to confine myself to things that I believe need to be said; I find it is easy to get carried away and become overly combative in these situations. This whole conflict has caused a lot of unnecessary stress to good contributors, which I regret.
If you feel I've failed to disclose anything important, please mention it in the discussion. --Avenue (talk) 09:52, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I have finally caught up on all your accusations in the ANI thread. Yes, Mbz1's talk page is currently on my watchlist (as are most user talk pages I have posted on recently), but that is not where I found out about the ANI thread. I generally try to stay away from ANI, but it is on my watchlist, and I usually scan the names of the people editing it. That is how I realised you were all at it again. --Avenue (talk) 17:10, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Help with English?[edit]

Map of the water hemisphere

Hi Avenue, I'd like to thank you for finding the maps for my Kohala nomination, and for you comment on my clouds nomination (you know what I am talking about). BTW the user was blocked later on today for 24 hours with the access to talk page removed. I'd like to ask for your help in fixing my English in a small article I wrote today: Aureole effect. It is not urgent. If you have no time, or are not interested in the subject, this is absolutely fine. "No worries" like you're saying "Down Under" :) BTW, when we were to New Zealand, we bought an up-side-down map that was called "No more Down Under":) Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:23, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a go. It's easy to miss things, though; I'll come back later to check. Thanks for writing the article. It's nice to know there's a name for it.
Yes, I've seen that map before. Here's another one that shows why we sometimes have a different perspective on things. I hope you had a good time in NZ. -- Avenue (talk) 12:47, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Avenue! We mostly visited New Zealand Sub-Antarctic Islands, and then spent only 2 nights in the capital. I loved the country, and wish we were able to spend much more time there than we did, but vacations are always too short :( Thank you for posting the map! Best wishes, --Mbz1 (talk) 15:41, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad you enjoyed your trip! I'd love to visit the sub-Antarctic islands, but haven't made it there yet. I can think of a few other parts of the country I think you'd like: the volcanoes, geothermal areas, some wildlife hotspots, the fiords. --Avenue (talk) 16:39, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We visited the Sub-Antarctic islands on our way back from Ross Sea. That trip started in Hobart, Tasmania and ended up in Christchurch. We have been to Rotorua, and to Waitomo - Glow Worm Caves. We saw some wild black swans. The cave is amazing. It was like walking under the starry sky. BTW I posted our new article to DYK. Of course I have given you the credit as to the author. --Mbz1 (talk) 19:40, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cropped
I forget how strange black swans seem to northerners. I'm glad you got to see some of the geothermal areas; Rotorua probably has the best we have left nearby.
Again you are being very generous with the credit; thank you! I think the full image works well in the article, but not at the size of a DYK thumbnail, because the sea lion and the shadow on the right attract too much attention. What do you think of this crop instead? And I think the hook should mention that it appears in the water. Do you mind if I try rewording it? --Avenue (talk) 21:40, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No I do not mind you rewording it at all, please do, but the image I'd rather leave as it is. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:46, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I've made a few changes. Please feel free to revise it. --Avenue (talk) 22:24, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Aureole effect[edit]

Hello! Your submission of Aureole effect at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Calmer Waters 02:34, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Avenue, I took care of that. As a matter of fact it is still the same reference I used. It is rather hard to find info about the phenomena. I will look some more. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:54, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The article was accepted, but it did not get to the top, so no picture is going to be used. Best.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:10, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And btw about using "a" and "the" I never know, where and when to use which, and honestly I am not sure why to use them at all :) So, you were right. It was my not fluent English, and nothing else.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:10, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I gather that's a common problem for native speakers of Russian (and a few other languages). Those words can be treacherous. Is there any chance you'd consider withdrawing your withdrawal, given that the problems there are partly due to a misunderstanding? I'll reword the caption if it'll help. -- Avenue (talk) 23:56, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. The nomination was closed already, so it is too late to do anything now with the nomination, and after this one it might be too late to do anything at all :) Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 13:10, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Aureole effect[edit]

Updated DYK query On March 26, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Aureole effect, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Mifter (talk) 08:40, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Avenue, our article was viewed more than 5000 times. It could be added to DYKSTATS, but I am not sure how to do it. If you have a time, could you please do it? Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:12, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, it's up. --Avenue (talk) 14:43, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, in less than a week? Amazing!--Gilisa (talk) 14:30, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, in one day. --Avenue (talk) 14:43, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar[edit]

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For always helping to improve Wikipedia. --The High Fin Sperm Whale 22:47, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! --Avenue (talk) 23:24, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please feel free to change the hook[edit]

In DYK nomination our nomination's entry. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:32, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed it very slightly (added a "the"). Thank you for including me. --Avenue (talk) 15:42, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, and congrats on a new well deserved barnstar!--Mbz1 (talk) 15:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More help[edit]

Hi Avenue, maybe you could help me with that [3]? Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 08:33, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have probably hit on the aspect of the list that I am least qualified to have an opinion on, but I'll try to help. I've set out my initial thoughts on the list's talk page. -- Avenue (talk) 11:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Avenue, when and if you have a time, could you please fix the footnotes as it was requested on the nomination, because I am not sure how to do it. Thank you for your time.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:44, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
An image created by you has been promoted to featured picture status
Your image, File:Anscombe's quartet 3.svg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Makeemlighter (talk) 03:41, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Killer whale[edit]

The Bio-star
For your many contributions in improving the killer whale article. Well done! Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 04:41, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I'm glad we got it up to the current standards. You deserve at least as much credit as me, though, and probably more. Thank you for all your work on it! --Avenue (talk) 08:31, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Maimonides Synagogue[edit]

Updated DYK query On April 6, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Maimonides Synagogue, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 06:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Hi Avenue, thank you for the two messages you left at my talk page. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:38, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. I think you can be very proud of the Fata Morgana result. -- Avenue (talk) 16:47, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New article[edit]

Hi Avenue,

here's my new article Looming, Towering, Stooping, and Sinking. If you have a time, could you please check my English? If I am blocked, please consider nominating it for DYK. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I won't have time for a few days, but I'll have a look at it then. --Avenue (talk) 11:10, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's OK, no worries, whenever you can. BTW I wrote one more The geological history of Point Lobos Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:48, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Somebody is working already on the second one.--Mbz1 (talk) 11:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Auckland Meetup 5 - 9 May 2010[edit]

You are invited to Auckland Meetup 5 on the afternoon of Sunday 9th May 2010 at Esquires Cafe, Ground Floor, Auckland Central City Library, Lorne St, Auckland. Please see Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland 5 for details and RSVP. You can also bookmark Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland to be informed of future NZ meetups. - Linnah (talk) 01:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK thanks[edit]

Hi Avenue, thanks for your help with the four brother in law MPs. The DYK is currently in the queue and it will go onto the homepage tomorrow at 6 pm. Schwede66 09:53, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. I think you had it well in hand without my help; thank you for being so generous with the credit. Good to hear they're going up soon. --Avenue (talk) 14:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Henry Richard Webb[edit]

Updated DYK query On April 23, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Henry Richard Webb, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 16:02, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for John Evans Brown[edit]

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Materialscientist (talk) 16:03, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for John Thomas Peacock[edit]

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Materialscientist (talk) 16:03, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Volcanism of New Zealand[edit]

-- Cirt (talk) 16:02, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant work. ceranthor 19:52, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! There's still a lot to do on it, but I hope it gives people an interesting read already. --Avenue (talk) 21:27, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Refactored[edit]

Hi Avenue. I moved one of you posts in the RfC to try to make a little more sense of that section. Hope that's OK and that I have placed it in the correct place? The bullet points are breaking, anyway, when you outdent so I would like to request every one over there there to use colons unless they genuinely need to bulletpoint something. Thoughts? --Jubileeclipman 20:27, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That looks fine to me. Thanks for letting me know. --Avenue (talk) 23:49, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problem! --Jubileeclipman 23:57, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FAC[edit]

Yadayadayada I'm back yadayada this is back yadayada hai :) ResMar 00:40, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cabbage tree[edit]

Anything(s) in particular grab you re DYK when you looked at Cordyline australis? I've been looking at the minutiae for so long it's hard for me to see the wood for the cabbage tree.Kahuroa (talk) 02:17, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I found the morere picture the most arresting item, so using that to illustrate something like this might work: DYK
  • "... that New Zealand's indigenous Māori people used the cabbage tree Cordyline australis for food, medicine, and to make strong ropes like those used for morere swings (pictured)"?
But I might not be your typical reader. Maybe something about its cultivation in the northern hemisphere might garner more interest up there; its thriving as far north as 61°N in Norway (about 15° further from the equator than its native range), or the fact that it's not really a palm, though often called one. The flower close-up is beautiful too. Perhaps that could be paired with something about large trees bearing up to 250,000 flowers in a year (if that's right; the article only gives a total number of seeds). --Avenue (talk) 09:47, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I like your ideas. The morere is interesting eh, a bit of human fun. And the number of flowers would be about 250k. I could write that in. I get the feeling that Northern Hemisphere people get a kick out of being able to grow what they think is a really tropical looking tree - which it probably is by origin, having adapted to the cooler NZ climate ... I could work that into the article too Kahuroa (talk) 10:21, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As well as your Morere swing suggestion, which was good to go, I have worked the other two things you suggested: Number of seeds, and the Norway/latitude/tropical origin. See my changes here. Seeing as I am obviously not as tuned in to DYK as you are, I'm quite happy for you to nominate. I'll probably be out from midday on though.Kahuroa (talk) 20:37, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of New Zealand[edit]

The article New Zealand you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:New Zealand for eventual comments about the article. Well done! Pyrotec (talk) 13:25, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your review! --Avenue (talk) 13:36, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on File:Rangitoto from Achilles Point.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section I2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an image page for a missing or corrupt image or an empty image description page for a Commons-hosted image.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:43, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination for Radiole[edit]

Thank you very much for your interest and your helpful suggestions, Avenue. I also prefer the ALT1 hook, and I like your suggested photo better. The more striking colors of the radioles of Spirobranchus giganteus will pique the reader's interest better than the original photo. Please see my comments at my nomination's entry. Regards, DiverDave (talk) 12:28, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've replied at the DYK nom. --Avenue (talk) 15:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Cordyline australis[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Re:My retirement[edit]

Hi Avenue - yeah, I'm still here but at a very low level of activity. I've taken a bit of a beating in the last year, both in terms of my health and personal life (including the end of a 12 year relationship). Though I enjoy Wikipedia, it is stressful, and I've got higher priorities at the moment. Thanks for the thoughts, Grutness...wha? 00:07, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think very low activity for you would be at least a moderate level of activity for most people! Anyway, I hope things get better for you soon. --Avenue (talk) 14:08, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Outreach[edit]

Check out this discussion Wikipedia_talk:Meetup/Auckland_5#Wikimedia_NZ for info to talk by Lanma726. It was nice seeing you at the meetup on Sunday. Linnah (talk) 21:39, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

country order[edit]

in the australia-new zealand relations article u changed the order of the nations and said why is australia always first, try to follow alpabetical order unless there is clear reason for this such as number of mount everast assents made cheers.

Digmores (talk) 03:23, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There should be no preferred order or presumption of ordering as to alphabetic occurrence. The only order that we should dignify is where things have confirmed and widely recognised names like ANZAC, ANZCERTA, SANZAR, Food Standards Australia-New Zealand, and so on. As it turns out, I can't think of a single example of where NZ precedes Aus in said confirmed and widely recognised names but that's not from not looking and I've never had a vote in coining such terms. NZAAC Day would still glorify the same atrocity as ANZAC Day does.Popecreator (talk) 23:33, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand politics task force[edit]

This user wants you to join WikiProject NZ politics.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Schwede66 (talkcontribs)

Thanks for the invite. I prefer to minimise the number of userboxes on my user page, so I'll just put myself in the relevant category instead. --Avenue (talk) 22:35, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moon FAR[edit]

Thanks for looking over Moon and fixing up all those non-breaking spaces & the like. The article has been kept! Iridia (talk) 01:57, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. I'm impressed by the improvements you've made during the FAR. Well done! --Avenue (talk) 05:11, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination for Geology of Northland Region, New Zealand[edit]

Hello! Your submission of Geology of Northland Region, New Zealand at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! . I'll try to find some time to help out with this, sorry that I didn't check this a bit earlier. Mikenorton (talk) 11:16, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request to use Houhere photo[edit]

Hi--I'm editing a book by a New Zealand lace knitter and am interested in using one of your images. I can't quite tell where I fall under Gnu or CC licenses so it seemed easiest to contact you directly. The image in question is "Lacebark (Hoheria populnea) flowers and leaves.", which I found on the Wikipedia Commons. Could you contact me at your convenience? Many thanks... Sorry, I'm a bit new to the "talk" convention and this is the only way I could find to contact you. Annemiwp (talk) 20:21, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Replied by email. --Avenue (talk) 23:38, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Geology of Northland Region, New Zealand[edit]

Hi Avenue, congratulations on sorting out all those inline cites, sorry that I didn't manage to do as much as I'd hoped, the article is looking good now. Cheers, Mikenorton (talk) 10:53, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Don't worry about not doing as much as you hoped; you seem to have been busy with other tasks, and the main thing is that it got done. I'm still trying to polish up the article a bit more before it goes live, but I'm glad you're happy with it. --Avenue (talk) 11:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Geology of Northland Region, New Zealand[edit]

RlevseTalk 12:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Avenue, because you contributed to FPC's recent review, I'm letting you know that the results of the poll have been posted. We appreciate your contributions to the first stage and hope you take part in this next step, here, to move towards implementing several changes to the process. Regards, Maedin\talk 18:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:South Island blizzard 2003.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Jujutacular T · C 13:14, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New article[edit]

Hi Avenue, if I am not mistaking, you are interested in geology. I wrote a new article User:Mbz1/article (still in my user space). May I please ask you, if you have a time to help me with the contest and English? If you have no time (I see "busy" template) please let me know, and I will ask somebody else. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 19:37, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see you are busy, but just for your information the article was moved to the main space Australite. Best.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, I haven't even had time to log in the last few days. I like your new article. I see other people have beaten me to the copyediting task, but I'll see if there's anything I can do to help too. --Avenue (talk) 02:20, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Have you heard about australites before?--Mbz1 (talk) 02:29, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Valued picture candidates/Edward Teller, 1958[edit]

You voted at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Edward Teller, 1958. I am informing you of Wikipedia:Valued picture candidates/Edward Teller, 1958.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:13, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wolverines in captivity[edit]

<Old comments copied from Talk:Wolverine#Wolverines in captivity removed --Avenue (talk) 18:44, 6 July 2010 (UTC)>[reply]

Not so fast. I don't believe less than four hours on 9 May 2010 is enough time to achieve consensus. In the USA, the Bush administration refused to give Wolverines endangered species protection, however, that decision could be reversed by the Obama administration. According to the isis website there are approximately only 104 wolverines in captivity worldwide! Wolverines are a very rare and special animal. (It is not like listing all the goats or sheep in the world.) I believe the captivity information is very helpful. Especially with links to the specific zoos that have wolverines. If some people feel this information is "listy and full of excessive detail" or "trivial" the perhaps there is another way. If all else fails a separate wiki article on wolverines in captivity could be started. Please respond with some creative suggestions other than deletion. Thanks Citizen-of-wiki (talk) 23:44, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Please respond on the wolverine discussion page. Citizen-of-wiki (talk) 23:54, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'll respond there. I've removed the previous comments posted there from my talk page, because I thought it was confusing to have them copied here without any preamble or other explanation. --Avenue (talk) 18:44, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Avenue,

I was looking for some refs to support the retention of an intetesting scholar: Richard J H Matthews. I noticed that you included a reference to his works as perhaps the only proper ref. under further reading in Māori_influence_on_New_Zealand_English. The refs is R. J. H. Matthews (1984). Maori Influence on New Zealand English. World Englishes 3 (3), 156–159. doi:10.1111/j.1467-971X.1984.tb00597.x

Do you know any other sources or have any other information for him? If not don't worry and thanks for you time. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 16:52, 7 July 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I don't know anything else about him, sorry. --Avenue (talk) 15:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Orthographic projection maps[edit]

Hi, Avenue. I was wondering if it is still possible to create orthographic projection maps such as the one you did at Media:New Zealand (orthographic projection) 2.svg? Am I correct in thinking it was created from the data at http://gmt.soest.hawaii.edu/ ? I would like to create one of these maps for something I'm working on, but I'm not sure how to do it. Are there instructions anywhere, or can you give me a brief tutorial, please? Regards, Matthewedwards :  Chat  15:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I used the Online Map Creator service originally hosted at this url (which was indeed based on GMT) to create a map in postscript format, and then just edited it in Inkscape to look like the others I've seen on Wikipedia. However that service seems to have been replaced by one that doesn't let you choose an orthographic projection, so it's not quite that simple anymore. They did post their Perl script here, if that helps you. I'd like to figure out how to do it in GMT and post some instructions and code, but I'm sorry, I won't have time to do it anytime soon. --Avenue (talk) 10:59, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Armero tragedy[edit]

Hi Avenue! Hope everything's going well. I see you've made some wonderful contributions lately. I don't know if you're interested, but I and a few others (Ruslik, Awickert, Mikenorton) have been sprucing up Armero tragedy. It's not nearly done in terms of content yet... I still have a good ten to fifteen sources to include, but if you could, I'd appreciate your help with copyediting the article. Your assistance and input were invaluable throughout Nevado del Ruiz' FAC candidacy, and I have intentions of bringing this one to FA for the 25th anniversary in November. No problem if you can't, thanks. ceranthor 02:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment logs[edit]

I'm a tad bit confused about Wikipedia:WikiProject Volcanoes/Assessment/Log complete. I thought it was updated by a bot but then I found this, so right now I am at "huh?" status. Did you really mark down all the pages you assessed manually.? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Resident Mario (talkcontribs) FAIL ResMar 13:40, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Volcanoes/Assessment/Log complete is simply a manually copied and pasted (and transcluded) archive of Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/WikiProject Volcanoes articles by quality log (which is updated by WP 1.0 bot). So the manual component is pretty trivial compared to the bot's. Seattle Skier set it up and has maintained it more than I have, but it is now very out of date. --Avenue (talk) 10:53, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've now updated it. --Avenue (talk) 12:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So every time the bot updates the page, you create a new log and add it to the list? Someone should write down the process for updating it on the page :/ ResMar 13:40, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not for every bot edit, just every month. --Avenue (talk) 10:11, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:NZ opinion polls 2009-2011[edit]

File:NZ opinion polls 2009-2011 -parties.png could do with an update. Cheers. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 08:47, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Avenue (talk) 08:46, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Volcanoes portal[edit]

I've replied. ResMar 16:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. --Avenue (talk) 00:58, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto ;) ResMar 19:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
and back again...  :) --Avenue (talk) 12:35, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Respondido. ResMar 13:43, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank semi-spam[edit]

Thanks for your support in my RfA, which was closed as successful. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 15:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Avenue, and thanks for reviewing the above FLC. The nomination has been restarted so that consensus can form more quickly. Please update your stance on the article and be sure to add/update any comments you may have. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 21:52, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gaps in submarine coverage[edit]

Are not! Wait, tell me where ;) ResMar 00:44, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't done a thorough review or anything, but my impression is that our coverage of the North Atlantic and North Pacific Oceans is reasonable, but most other areas range from fair to poor. Just looking at the region near where I live, for instance, there are about 90 known submarine volcanoes in the Kermadec arc,[4], of which we have articles for three, and a list covering around a quarter. The Louisville seamount chain is comparable in length to the Hawaiian-Emperor chain, and we cover it in about four sentences. So I think there are a few gaps. --Avenue (talk) 03:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed! I'll look into it. I'm working on Axial Seamount right now, another Pacific volcano. :) ResMar 16:37, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
FYI I have been gathering information for a while to recreate a few features in the north Pacific. But they are not necessarly volcanoes; one is a mid-ocean ridge and the other is a hydrothermal field. Volcanoguy 16:37, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Still good grist for the WP:VOLC mill, anyway. --Avenue (talk) 09:54, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NZ Geographic magazine as a quality source[edit]

Hi Avenue. At the moment Huia is going thru its nomination process as a featured article at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Huia/archive1. One of the reviewers has queried NZ Geographic (or an article in it by Szabo) as a quality source. I think it's a fine quality source - if you have an opinion it would be nice to have backup on the FA page. Any other input there or tweaks to the article would also be great if you feel so inclined. Kahuroa (talk) 10:16, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Diagram[edit]

I'm writing out interactions soon, so the cross-section diagram should go there. Really the section has way too many images, so maybe not. ResMar 16:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...And by that I mean that I will write it out later today. ResMar 16:34, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There still seems to be plenty of room in the article for images, and I think something like that cross-section would be very helpful. But if you're planning an expansion, then I agree it's worth waiting to see where it might fit best. --Avenue (talk) 16:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Geology already has 5 images. On a large screen, there is absolutely no way to add another one without disrupting the text. We will see... ResMar 17:50, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can you handle Rambling Man's comments? I have work to do, unfortunatly :/. Thanks, ResMar 21:39, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As do I :( but I've made a start. I see you've done some work on them too. --Avenue (talk) 13:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pat on the back[edit]

Well done! =) ResMar 03:43, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, you too! :) --Avenue (talk) 07:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We got special Signpost mention - yay! ResMar 02:09, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's nice to see our work being appreciated. --Avenue (talk) 11:14, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Volcanoes[edit]

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Volcanoes, Volcanoguy asks: "if mines within volcanics should be included". I do not have a problem with volcanic pipes, stub quality level, start quality level. Copper minning in flood basalts is more of a problem, I think. Would u like to throw ur two cents? Thx. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 18:46, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Society of New Zealand - change of domain name[edit]

Hi Avenue, the Royal Society of New Zealand have changed there internet domain name, thus breaking all of their journal url links (clicking on the old link mostly sends you to a page that does tell you what the new link is, although some of the ones that I've added now point to a different journal). I've gone through most of the fault and earthquake ones, updating the urls, but I guess there's a lot of others out there. Mikenorton (talk) 14:37, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. I came across one of these yesterday, and was hoping it wasn't widespread. Oh well. --Avenue (talk) 14:59, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You can use the external links special page to track them down - I had to fix the links on a lot of plant articles last week. Here's a link that should list them all - you can see which ones still have the old format royalsociety.org.nz Kahuroa (talk) 20:31, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

image[edit]

Hi Avenue, I fixed the image File:Sunset with Cirrus clouds at Land's End in San Francisco .jpg, but I do not know, when the editor, who nominated it, will see the change and transfer it to commons, unless you could transfer this yourself. The reason for the thing you found on the rock was stitching error. This image is panorama. Cheers.--Mbz1 (talk) 12:58, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Avenue, the image was transferred to Commons. If you satisfied with the fix, may I please ask you to change a reason for your oppose? Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:18, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Mila, thanks for fixing that. I'm no longer in the "oppose" camp, but I haven't swung all the way over to supporting it, sorry. By the way, am I right to think the small black spot in the upper left corner must be a bird? --Avenue (talk) 15:10, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is probably a bird or ... another reason to oppose :). Cheers.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:15, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad you can still joke about it! I'm sorry about the situation on Commons. A lot of people there still seem to be on short fuses, but I hope it will all turn out okay in the end. Cheers, Avenue (talk) 15:26, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, for me it will not turn out okay, and besides it is the end for me already. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:33, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, I might have guessed that's how you would be feeling. Perhaps I am foolish, but I do still hope for the best. But I shouldn't have brought it up. --Avenue (talk) 16:10, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Avenue. After extensive commentary, the FAC on Mauna Kea has been given a restart by Karanacs. I'm now a conom and noted you had been a reviewer, so thought I would ask if you would consider revisiting and commenting on its current version. Regards, hamiltonstone (talk) 01:54, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for coming back for another pass. ResMar and I have both had a go at responding to your two concerns. Roughly speaking, this diff summarises the change (though a couple of fixes unrelated to your query are caught up in it as well). (I am also presuming ResMar is not going to object to my recent changes, which altered some of his first revisions quite significantly). Anyway, see what you think. hamiltonstone (talk) 03:40, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, it looks good to me now. --Avenue (talk) 16:28, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whale Island[edit]

On Talk:Whale Island, New Zealand there's a comment by you about moving the page to its official name. Any more thoughts on that? Kahuroa (talk) 08:35, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I forgot about that. I'll go ahead and move it. --Avenue (talk) 15:36, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers. Do you think I should take the macron off the name in the text? I might have got carried away. I am also wondering about why we put Maori names into italics. We used to get told off at Uni for that, since they aren't foreign in NZ, official language and all. Any thoughts? Kahuroa (talk) 20:03, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Personally I don't mind either way about using the macron in the text. In one sense it's more correct, but in another (the spelling of the official name) it's not. The sources I've looked at about the island seem to be split fairly evenly. It should certainly be shown in the italicised Maori name, though.
I think Maori being an official language is not quite the issue here regarding italics. Instead, for an English Wikipedia article, it's about how the words would appear in NZ English, in a formal written context. In that respect, I wouldn't expect to see the Maori name in italics throughout the text, but the four cases of italics in the current article seem okay to me. "Motutohorā" is the clearest case, since as far as I know this name isn't part of NZ English. The three italicised occurrences of "Moutohorā" are where we effectively say "the term for this in the Maori language is ...", and in that context I think italics make sense. --Avenue (talk) 21:21, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sweet. Kahuroa (talk) 22:15, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work at Regions of New Zealand[edit]

Well done with this apt edit to Regions of New Zealand. I was thinking of doing exactly the same, but now needn't. Nurg (talk) 20:39, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'm glad you like it, and that I could save you the trouble. --Avenue (talk) 23:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sirocco DYK[edit]

FYI there is now a second pic on the Sirocco (Kakapo) article. It may be better for use on the DYK, see what you think. Kahuroa (talk) 04:49, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that looks good. His personality seems to come through more there. I'll change the picture on the DYK nom. --Avenue (talk) 06:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Sirocco (Kakapo)[edit]

-- Cirt (talk) 00:03, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

F and A[edit]

Thanks heaps! Tony (talk) 12:51, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! --Avenue (talk) 12:57, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of dual place names in New Zealand[edit]

Hi,

Thanks for overtaking my slow* addition of names to List of dual place names in New Zealand and your excellent work in the prose section. I had been considering a separate table for the "old form" (parentheses) names. What do you think?
* I've been distracted as we are in the middle of buying some land. dramatic (talk) 23:32, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you like the new prose. Sorry if I've taken the fun of adding to it away from you; I've been trying to make the list more or less complete before it goes up on the main page. (I gather it's due to go up tomorrow afternoon evening.) I don't think a separate table for the old form names would be ideal (it doesn't seem like something readers would expect), but I was wondering whether extra columns specifying the dividing characters (parentheses or slash) and the order (Maori or non-Maori first) might be worthwhile. Sounds like you have plenty of challenges on your hands with the land - I hope it all goes well. --Avenue (talk) 00:31, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for List of dual place names in New Zealand[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

AfDs[edit]

Hi. As you just participated in discussions on a closely related topic (also a current AfD re a Jewish list), which may raise some of the same issues, I'm simply mentioning that the following are currently ongoing: AfDs re lists of Jewish Nobel laureates, entertainers, inventors, actors, cartoonists, and heavy metal musicians. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 08:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi, I've already commented several times at the Nobel laureates one. I've also already looked at a couple of the others, which I didn't feel strongly enough about to comment on, so maybe I would feel the same about the rest. Anyway, I don't think it would be appropriate to look at the others now that you've brought them to my attention; I wouldn't want you subjected to accusations of canvassing. --Avenue (talk) 12:08, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • No worries. This was not a request that you look at the AfDs. It was a non-neutral message as to their existence. Sent to all editors, whatever their view, who had commented on only some of the related ongoing AfDs, but not all of them. The trigger was a concern expressed at the AfDs that some editors may have been informed of the existence of the other AfDs, while others had not been so informed. This addressed that possibility.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:44, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Fee[edit]

I believe I fixed all your problems in Fee's FAC. Volcanoguy 04:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Fee is once again at FAC. Volcanoguy 14:23, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the notification. Sorry I missed the action. --Avenue (talk) 17:29, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, seeing as you were involved in the last nomination of this image, I thought you may be interested to know that I have renominated it. J Milburn (talk) 20:11, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; I've finally had a chance to comment. --Avenue (talk) 06:45, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]