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This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Herman Laatsman, and it appears to include material copied directly from http://tous-les-faits.fr/hermann_laatsman.

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Note from the author[edit]

There is no copyright problem: the previous refer to an article published in Fr Wikipedia which I wrote and gave license to Wikipedia. The part which is common to the two articles probably concerns the quotation related to the Medal of Freedom.

A mail has been sent to permissions-en@wikimedia.org in order to confirm the license so that no difficulties remain.

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Note from the author[edit]

Only the format of the references needed to be revised. The problem has been fixed. The article now contains 19 footnotes.

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  • @Alain.souloumiac: Hello! Regarding the above, can you link to where the content is published under CC License allowing re-use? As for being the same author as the source that the bot found, we need more information to confirm this, as we are all fairly anonymous. You can see WP:DCM for how to do that. I don't think there is any doubt of his notability, but the issue here is making sure that the text is legally allowed to be here. Thanks, CrowCaw 19:13, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the reply. Can you link to the page on French Wikipedia? I tried to search but did not find it. Thanks, CrowCaw 20:48, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi again, you can ignore my last. I see what happened now. I'm checking into it, thanks! CrowCaw 22:07, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Société Mondiale des Créateurs[edit]

Hello Alain.souloumiac,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Société Mondiale des Créateurs for deletion, because it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reasons.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Into The Fray T/C 04:33, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How does variety of reasons work?[edit]

I received a notification for speedy deletion of the article concerning the Société Mondiale des Créateurs. I am not very familiar with the procedure. How can we distinguish clearly "facts" and "blatant promotion"? What is the meaning of "No claim of significance"? Thank you in advance for your help. Alain.souloumiac (talk) 07:08, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alain.souloumiac, you have a few questions, I'll try to answer them all.
  1. Facts vs promotion: there's a difference between saying "Company X was founded in 2000" and "Company X has been providing top-quality products for the widget market since 2000." The former is facts, the latter is promotion.
  2. Significance: Wikipedia requires that articles be supported by reliable sources that discuss the subject in detail. If no one is talking about a company/person/society, are they notable or significant? This is also called The Golden Rule.
If you believe your page was deleted unfairly, you can go to WP:REFUND and ask that the page be restored (either as an Article or as a Draft). If you ask for it to be turned into a draft you can submit it for review by experienced editors, who will give suggestions on how to improve the page (rather than simply delete it). If you want more help, stop by the Teahouse, Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 08:23, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

THANK YOU for your kind, clear and relevant help. Alain.souloumiac (talk) 10:40, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Primefac, articles that are deleted via A7 cannot be restored through REFUND. He has to ask the deleting admin about this. However since this was deleted as G11 that makes things slightly problematic, but Jimfbleak may be willing to email him the page. If he refuses this will have to go through deletion review. On a side note, Alain, your userpage comes across as promotional in tone since it reads like a mixture of a CV and a blog, neither of which are acceptable uses of the userpage per WP:UPNO. You can write about yourself to a degree, but it should really only be about yourself as it pertains to editing Wikipedia. (See WP:UPYES for more information on this.) Also, if you have a conflict of interest with any of the topics you're editing you need to disclose this on your userpage as well. A general rule of thumb is that you should be extremely careful about using WP:PEACOCK terms like "expert" and writing about yourself in the third person, since these can be seen as promotional. (It can also be seen as you trying to create a faux mainspace page in your userspace, which not only comes across as promotional but is also against policy.) Offhand I'd say that if you re-write the first section and remove the other two sections, it should be fine, though. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 10:57, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alain.souloumiac,] I've seen this discussion, although I'm tied up in RL for a couple of days, so it may be a little while before I can respond in detail. Primefac, thank you for helping, Tokyogirl79, thanks for the reply above and the ping Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:42, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Detailed reply[edit]

I deleted your article because

  • it did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines.
  • it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of unsourced claims presented as fact include: ... to continue and develop the French tradition of author rights... The role of the SMC is to contribute to the implementation of the new international regime by organising the recognition and protection of the author rights which the creators own on their creation...
  • it's all about what the organisation does, little about the organisation itself other than locations. How many employees? Who are its members? How is it funded? What does it actually do — Your last sentence is a statement of intent, it doesn't indicate that you take any action.

I've seen worse, so I'll recreate here soon. Let me know if you have any queries Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:14, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to you all for the more detailed reasons that were brought. The sentence ... to continue and develop the French tradition of author rights... The role of the SMC is to contribute to the implementation of the new international regime by organising the recognition and protection of the author rights which the creators own on their creation... was not in the original article. It was added to answer the contradictor's argument of missing significance. The two arguments be significant and do not promote form a double command and are in a certain measure antagonist. From this point of view the starting point given by the first article was more "neutral".

There is no probleme in providing more source about facts if needed (Historical role of Beaumarchais, Victor Hugo, Registration of Société Mondiale des Créateurs and statutes). Hope we will manage to find ways to produce a good and useful article (It was the original aim of Diderot to publish useful articles in the original Encyclopédie edited by experts - I suppose Wikipedia share similar aims). 14:56, 4 July 2015 (UTC)~.

It is not possible to hide deletions of articles form the logs. I think you are worrying unnecessarily, many article get deleted on the first try, and the fact that a previous version has been deleted almost guarantees that the new version will be better having received more scrutiny Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:18, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Jim for your positive and encouraging answer. Alain.souloumiac (talk) 13:29, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation link notification for July 17[edit]

Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited Suzanne Hiltermann-Souloumiac, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Cruel Sea. Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.

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Hi. Sorry, I did not fully understand your message. I originally wrote Crual, which was not correct English. I changed this into Cruel, which is correct. And now the reader may access to the referred book. Is this wrong? Alain.souloumiac (talk) 15:31, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft is still waiting for you to edit. You have as long as it takes to get it ready, but if six months goes without an edit it might be assumed you have given up. Rankersbo (talk) 07:07, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but your message is not very clear. Which draft do you refer to? What are you waiting for? What is the problem Alain.souloumiac
Alain.souloumiac, you created a userpage in the style of an article, which is not allowed. It was moved to Draft:Alain Souloumiac. If you wish to have an article about yourself, you need to submit that page for review. If you only want to have a userpage, then please see WP:USERPAGE for what is acceptable to have on it. If you want more help, stop by the Teahouse, Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 07:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. This is very clear. I now understand. Please remove this page from your platform. I will consider an article later. Thank you. Alain.souloumiac. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.178.245.194 (talk) 09:33, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Alain Souloumiac[edit]

Hello, Alain.souloumiac. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Alain Souloumiac".

In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Onel5969 TT me 04:57, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Creational Society[edit]

Your article Creational Society cites two sources, neither of which use the phrase. It looks like a phrase you've made up and the article is therefore eligible for WP:A11 speedy deletion. Do you have any other sources?

Also, please note that Wikipedia is not a reliable source and should never be cited as a source. Cabayi (talk) 16:09, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

COMMENT FROM AS CONCERNING THE ARTICLE ON CREATIONAL SOCIETY: According to John Locke, there are two types of work: labor work and creative work. As the article states, labor work is diminishing and we have entered a post-industrial society. At least 3 references are given to underline this fact. As the labor work diminishes, creative work is growing, competitiveness is based on creativity and we are entering a creational society. The articles now has 12 lines and 6 references. It has only be published for 4 hours. I do have other sources but I do not want to monopolize the writing under "Creative Commons". Please also reserve a certain duration to let other wikipedia readers contribute. Thank you in advance. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alain.souloumiac (talkcontribs) 17:21, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, of the sources you've added, the only one I can verify is your own page on medium.com. This only confirms my feeling that the phrase is something you've made up, and original research. Cabayi (talk) 19:41, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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