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Edit-warring on Diamond and Silk[edit]

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295N63E (talk) 19:42, 10 December 2019 (UTC)Editors and Snooganssnoogans, I apologize for several earlier reverts over the course of four days. I had believed based on comments between myself and two other editors, that the concerns raised in the reverts should have been addressed. There is much ambiguity online, but the facts on this particular topic appear clear, and it appears the Wikipedia statement as written is inaccurate and misleading. In fact, this glaring omission was what spurred me to finally decide to start editing on Wiki after having been a long time user (and sometimes donor).[reply]

The article as written states that "There is, however, no evidence that Facebook blocked or censored Diamond and Silk's Facebook page." Links to CNN and the Washington Post.

I readily admit there is lack of concensus in the media over this. There is frequently pushback on politically charged issues. In cases like this it is Wikipedia's past practice to fall back on primary source documentation to the extent it is present. Official statements from the company (Facebook) in question are crucial in a fact based inquiry. Those statements conclusively show that facebook briefly censored (in Mark Zuckerberg's opinion), Diamond and Silk. Zuck was asked why censorship and replied that in that case the team made an enforcement error (and fixed it). If facebooks position was that it was not brief censorship he would have said "they weren't censored or something similar". Neither Facebook nor Zuckerberg made subsequent attempts to clarify his statement on the record, given under oath. It is important to note as well that the explicit use of the phrase "team made an enforcement error" counters the widely held opinion in some social media groups that the action by facebook was initiated simply by a computer program, as it was clearly human driven.

As such I suggest adding a clarifying sentence: However, on April 11, 2018, Mark Zuckerberg testified before the US House of Representatives to Congressman Joe Barton's question of "why is Facebook censoring conservative bloggers such as Diamond and Silk..." that "in that specific case, our team made an enforcement error and we have already gotten in touch with them to reverse it."[1][2][3][4]

I would argue that this sentence is far less conclusive in tone than the statement as written that there is no evidence. It allows the reader to assess the official company statement to come to their own conclusion regarding the facts of the matter.

While removing the prior sentence may make the paragraph more accurate in my opinion, it would also ignore that there is contention. As such I proposed editing the current sentence to begin with "Some media sources state there is"(no evidence that Facebook blocked or censored Diamond and Silk's Facebook page). The reporting from CNN and the WaPo is there, and readers appreciate knowing the scope of an issue. Showing both sides of this issue, and not ignoring the direct testimony of facebook, provides impartiality to what is otherwise politically charged. I appreciate any and all responses from editors but will request that editors not issue any put downs such as "be smarter".295N63E (talk) 19:42, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

January 2020[edit]

Please stop adding unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did on Diamond and Silk. This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Your material relied on original research based on primary sources. That will not do. Drmies (talk) 23:53, 3 January 2020 (UTC) I am not providing poorly or unsourced content. Content from the transcription of U.S. House of representatives clearly meets Wikipedia's policy on verifiability as it is explicitly verifiable. Please read the talk page if you have concerns we have been discussing this for near on a month.--295N63E (talk) 23:58, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ US House of Representatives, Energy and Commerce Committee (April 11, 2018). "Mark Zuckerberg Testimony Before House Energy and Commerce Committee" (PDF). docs.house.gov.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference kansascity was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ "Hearing on "Facebook: Transparency and Use of Consumer Data," Full Committee (April 11, 2018)". Democrats, Energy and Commerce Committee. 2018-04-11. Retrieved 2019-12-10.
  4. ^ Government, Bloomberg (April 11, 2018). "Transcript of Zuckerbergs Apperance Before House Committee". The Washington Post.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)