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Hello Bourge, thanks for your tips. 弟 (talk) 23:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Jianpi Wan[edit]
The article Jianpi Wan has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- No evidence of notability.
While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Tim Song (talk) 09:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
> To address the issue of Notability, an additional source from the Publishing House of Shanghai University of Traditional Chinese Medicine has been included in the References, as shown below:
Jianpi Wan ( Simplified Chinese:健脾丸) is a blackish-brown pill used in Traditional Chinese medicine to "invigorate the spleen function and improve the appetite". [1] It tastes slightly sweet and bitter. It is used where there is "weakness of the spleen and stomach marked by epigastric and abdominal distension, anorexia and loose bowels". The binding agent is honey. Each pill weighs about 9 grams.
The original formula was first published in Zhengzhi Zhunsheng (Standards of Diagnosis and Treatment). [2] It is known as the "Pill for Invigorating the Spleen".
Chinese classic herbal formula[edit]
| Name | Chinese (S) | Grams |
|---|---|---|
| Radix Codonopsis | 党参 | 200 |
| Rhizoma Atractylodis Macrocephalae (stir-baked) | 白术 (炒) | 300 |
| Pericarpium Citri Reticulatae | 陈皮 | 200 |
| Fructus Aurantii Immaturus (stir-baked) | 枳实 (炒) | 200 |
| Fructus Crataegi (stir-baked) | 山楂 (炒) | 150 |
| Fructus Hordei Germinatus (stir-baked) | 麦芽 (炒) | 200 |
See also[edit]
References[edit]
- ^ State Pharmacopoeia Commission of the PRC (2005). "Pharmacopoeia of The People's Republic of China (Volume I)". Chemical Industry Press. ISBN 7117069821.
- ^ Zuo Yanfu, Zhu Zhongbao, Huang Yuezhong, Tao Jinweng, Li Zhaoguo. "Science of Prescriptions", Publishing House of Shanghai University of Traditional Chinese Medicine. 2002. ISBN 7810106503. page 320.
弟 (talk) 00:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Articles for deletion nomination of Jianpi Wan[edit]
I have nominated Jianpi Wan, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jianpi Wan. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Tim Song (talk) 09:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Responses on deletion page:
* The primary indication why this article is notable is that it has been notable enough to be published in full in a number of reputable sources, including those given in the references, namely: 1. . State Pharmacopoeia Commission of the PRC (2005). "Pharmacopoeia of The People's Republic of China (Volume I)". Chemical Industry Press. ISBN 7117069821. 2. Zuo Yanfu, Zhu Zhongbao, Huang Yuezhong, Tao Jinweng, Li Zhaoguo. "Science of Prescriptions", Publishing House of Shanghai University of Traditional Chinese Medicine. 2002. ISBN 7810106503. page 320.
The secondary indication why this article is notable can be obtained when we do a Google search on "Jianpi Wan". Such a search yields thousands of hits. IMHO, an article cannot be proved to be un-notable just because thousands of its kind exist. For example, "dog" and "apple" are notable, even though there are thousands of animals and thousands of fruits. 弟 (talk) 02:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
* Weak keep. The information is reasonable for an encyclopedia to include, and it is described in appropriate sources, so it meets the general notability guideline. The article could be merged with similar ones, I suppose, but Chinese classic herbal formulas is the only article I can find that would be a reasonable target, and it really is not reasonable to bloat that article with descriptions of each and every formula. In the end, I think that a separate article is the right solution. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:20, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
* Note: Why the canvassing/campaigning-esque invites by the article creator?: [1], [2]. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:47, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
o Thanks for the note on canvassing/campaigning-esque. I've written to canvass, not to campaign (in the Wikipedia sense of the term). If you think that is campaigning, i'll shorten the canvassing note to make it acceptable.
o In addition, the invite serves to notify those who have contributed to the area of alternative medicine, and thus may have an interest in the discussions, given that a number of articles in this area have been deleted. 弟 (talk) 02:32, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
+ To me, "Now this article makes the formula available in both languages, so that a deeper understanding can be achieved." indicates bias—i.e., implies that the article should be kept. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
# Point taken. Thank you for pointing it out, as it helps me to set my boundaries. 弟 (talk) 00:48, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
* Keep. The article is referenced, and FWIW, referenced concoctions can in the future all have their own articles. We do have articles on aspirin, morphine, and heroin for instance. Ngchen (talk) 18:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but we also have articles on the individual herbs used in the concoction. The more apt analogy, IMHO, would be having articles on Tylenol PM (it's now a redirect). I don't think inclusion in a pharmacoepia is sufficient to confer notability. The second source seems to be a textbook on TCM prescriptions. From the ref it seems like a rather brief mention. As such, I think it falls on the relatively trivial side of the line. Tim Song (talk) 20:07, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
When a formula is important enough to be published in a national pharmacopoeia indicates that it is not published in the pharmacopoeia alone. It is published in full in the second reference, and other books, such as "Chinese Herbal Medicine: Formulas & Strategies" by Dan Bensky and Randall Barolet (ISBN 0939616106), and "Formulas of Traditional Chinese Medicine" (方剂学 fāngjì xué) by Long Zhixian (General Chief Editor), Li Qingye (Chief Editor of Chinese), Liu Zhanwen (Chief Editor of English), Academy Press (学苑出版社 xuéyuàn chūbǎnshè), Beijing University of Traditional Medicine. 2005. ISBN 7507712702. 弟 (talk) 01:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
* Keep. I think many of the formulas on Chinese classic herbal formula are noteworthy enough to have their own pages. I agree with WhatamIdoing , having separate pages for the formulas is probably the best idea. I think if the formula was borrowed by Japan as a kampo formula, then it most likely is guaranteed to be noteworthy enough. Jianpi Wan isn't a Japanese kampo formula. So then I'd look to where it was first published. It was published in the Standards of Diagnosis and Treatment (證治準繩 Zhèngzhì Zhǔnshéng) by Wáng Kěntáng (王肯堂) in 1602. That text is on some lists as a Classical Medical Text. I figure if it was first used in 1602 and is still in use, then it's noteworthy enough. Dreamingclouds (talk) 23:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC) * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 20:02, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
* Keep. Any medicine of even the weakest effect should be notable. Benjwong (talk) 03:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Health Canada[edit]
The following formulas, including Jianpi Wan, are "Licensed Natural Health Products" in Canada, and are found in the website of Health Canada, http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ and http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/index-eng.php
| Licence Number | Product Name | Licence Holder | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 80006926 | An Shen Bu Xin Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80006225 | Angelica Compound Tablets; Fufang Dang Gui Pian | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80008974 | Angelica Spleen Tonic Pills; Kwei Be Wan | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80004155 | Anshen Buxin Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80008583 | Astragalus-Codonopsis Grand Tonic Pill; Shen Qi Da Bu Wan | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80001949 | Ba Zhen Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80001628 | Ba Zhen Yi Mu Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80007854 | Ba Zhen Yi Mu Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80007302 | Bai He Gu Jin Wan; Lilium-Gold Lung Strengthener Pill | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80006880 | Bai Tou Weng Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80006099 | Bai Zi Yang Xin Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80006102 | Baifeng Wan | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80008422 | Bao He Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80010845 | Bao He Wan; Stomach Harmonizing Pill | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80006349 | Biota Heart Nourishing Pills; Bai Zi Yang Xin Wan; Biota Heart Tonic Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80007373 | Bitong Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80000805 | Bu Yang Huan Wu Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80008669 | Bu Zhong Yi Qi Wan; Nourish Middle Warmer Strengthen Qi Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80008705 | Bushen Qiangshen Pian | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80007100 | Celestial Heart Tonic Pills; Tian Wang Bu Xin Dan | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80008832 | Comfort Liver Pills; Liver Qi Relief Pills; Shu Gan Wan | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80004444 | Danggui Kushen Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80011362 | Danning Pian | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80005921 | Du Huo Ji Sheng Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80004368 | Er Chen Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80008942 | Er Ming Zuo Ci Wan; Erlong Zuoci Wan | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80008736 | Erlong Zuoci Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80011709 | Erlong Zuoci Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80008815 | Fritillaria Extract Tablets; Chuan Bei Jing Pian; Fritillary Tablets For Cough | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80006130 | Fructus Persica Compound Pills; Moisten Intestines Pills; Peach Kernel Pills For Constipation; Runchang Wan | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80005852 | Fu Ke Yang Rong Wan; The Grand Benevolence Tonic Pill For Woman | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80008903 | Fu Ke Zhong Zi Wan; Pro-Conception Pills For Women; Women'S Fertility Promoting Pill | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80008970 | Fuke Shiwei Pian | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80009704 | Fuzi Lizhong Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80003237 | Gan Mai Da Zao Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80008775 | Gu Ci Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80001539 | Gui Pi Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80004472 | Gui Zhi Fu Ling Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80010096 | Hsiao Yao Wan; Carefree Pills; Liberating Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80010827 | Huang Lian Shang Qing Pian (Tablets); Coptidis Heat-Pathogen Cleansing Tablets | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80003654 | Jia Wei Xiao Yao Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80007145 | Jia Wei Xiao Yao Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80003880 | Jian Pi Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80008922 | Jian Pi Wan; Stomachic Pill | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80001263 | Jin Kui Shen Qi Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80007115 | Jin Kui Shen Qi Wan (Sexoton-Pills); Gold-Chamber Kidney-Yang Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80005912 | Jin Suo Gu Jing Wan; Golden Essence Retention And Strengthening Pills; Kidney-Essence Stengthening Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80007999 | Jing Zhui Tong Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80007388 | Ku Ben Wan; Gu Ben Tonic Pills For The Body Fundamentals; Gu Ben Wan; Guben Wan | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80008079 | Kun Bao Wan; Meno-Tonic Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 791903 | Kwan Loong Oil | Haw Par Healthcare Limited | |
| 80008065 | Leukorrhea Pills; Yudai Wan | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80007510 | Liangfu Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80000856 | Liu Wei Di Huang Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80002271 | Liu Wei Di Huang Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80005888 | Liu Wei Di Huang Wan | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80007125 | Liu Wei Di Huang Wan | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80008786 | Long Dan Xie Gan Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80006256 | Long Dan Xie Gan Wan; Dragon Gall And Liver Cleanser Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80005833 | Lophan Thus Herbal Pills; Huo Xiang Zheng Qi Wan; Lophanthus Herbal Pills; Lophanthus Stomach-Flu Relief; Pogostemon Herbal Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80006304 | Mai Wei Di Huang Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80008003 | Maiwei Dihuang Wan; Eight-Immortals Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80008958 | Ming Mu Di Huang Wan; Better Vision Earth-King Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80001604 | Ming Mui Di Huang Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80007487 | Mingmu Shangqing Pian; Clear Vision Cleanse Fire Herbal Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80007422 | Mu Xiang Shun Qi Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80003876 | Mugua Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80009111 | Nei Xiao Luo Li Wan; Nexu Pain Relieving Pills For Phlegm-Accumulation | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80005959 | Ning Sou Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80006430 | Ning Sou Wan; | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80006185 | Niu Huang Jie Du Pian (Coated); Calculus Bovis Detoxifying Tablets | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80006389 | Niu Huang Jie Du Pian (Uncoated); Calculus Bovis Detoxifying Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80009160 | Nu Jin Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80008324 | Nu Ke Ba Zhen Wan; Bazhen Wan; Women Eight Treasures Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80006347 | Pinellia Expectorant Pills; Qing Qi Hua Tan Wan | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80006925 | Qi Ju Di Huang Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80008959 | Qi Ju Di Huang Wan; Lycii-Chrysanthemum Earth King Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80007088 | Qing Fei Yi Huo Pian | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80007280 | Qing Fei Yi Huo Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80010015 | Qingwei Huanglian Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80007376 | Qingxuan Pian | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80011359 | Qiye Shen'An Pian | Nutragenius Inc. | |
| 2239411 | Renshenfengwangjiang Classical Ginseng (300 Mg) | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 2239412 | Renshenfengwangjiang Ginseng Maximum Liquid (1000 Mg) | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80009913 | San Qi Pian | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80011340 | San Qi Tablets; San Qi Wan | Eastern Currents Distributing Ltd | |
| 80009875 | Sangju Ganmao Pian | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80008702 | Shen Ling Bai Zhu Wan | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80011224 | Shen Tong Zhu Yu Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80001603 | Sheng Mai Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80011602 | Shenqi Wuweizi Pian | Yanan Changtai Pharmaceutical Co. Ltd. | |
| 80006057 | Shi Quan Da Bu Wan | T.C. Unicor | T.C. Unicorn Ltd |
| 80005121 | Xian Fang Huo Ming Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80006202 | Xiang Lian Wan; Coptis Aucklandia Pills For Diarrhea And Stomach Pain | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80007142 | Xiang Sha Liu Jun Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80005840 | Xiang Sha Yang Wei Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80007335 | Xiao Chai Hu Tang Wan; Bupleuri Root Micro-Compound Pills; Radix Bupleuri Formulation Pill | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80004961 | Xiao Qing Long Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80009748 | Xiao Qing Long Wan; Little Green Dragon Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80010002 | Yang Wei Pian; Stomachic Strengthening Pill | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80010351 | Yao Kwei Pills (Capsules); Yao Gui Wan | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80005846 | Ying Qiao Jie Du Pian | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80001487 | You Gui Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80009944 | Yu Feng Ning Xin Pian | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80001647 | Yue Ju Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80010199 | Zangqing Guohou Pian | Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd. | |
| 80007025 | Zeng Ye Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80010622 | Zheng Gu Shui - Healing Liniment For Bruise - Sprain And Pain | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80008956 | Zhi Bai Ba Wei Wan; Ziba Combination-Eight Pills | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80001383 | Zhi Bai Di Huang Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80011737 | Zho Kwei Wan (Capsules); Zuogui Wan (Capsules) | Classical Remedia Ltd. | |
| 80002348 | Zi Sheng Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80001442 | Zuo Gui Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd | |
| 80005266 | Zuo Jin Wan | T.C. Unicorn Ltd |
References http://webprod.hc-sc.gc.ca/lnhpd-bdpsnh/search-recherche.do?lang=eng http://webprod.hc-sc.gc.ca/lnhpd-bdpsnh/info.do?lang=eng&licence=80008922 http://webprod.hc-sc.gc.ca/lnhpd-bdpsnh/info.do?lang=eng&licence=80003880 http://en.tcm-china.info/materia/patent/patent/75805.shtml (Beijing Digital Museum of TCM)
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