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Hi, Betacommand. If I may, I would like to point the clause of WP:SIG#NL which "expects" editors to include at least one Latin character in the 'username' element of their signature, to aid Wikipedians who are not familiar with Ancient Greek script, or other alphabets. Would you mind adjusting your preferences accordingly, therefore? Thanks, ╟─TreasuryTagCaptain-Regent─╢ 12:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Its something Im working on, coming up with a good new sig isn't that easy :) Once I figure out something that works, Ill change my sig. Δ (talk) 12:49, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

The Big Question: You jumped from Beta to Delta. What happened to Gamma? :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:47, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

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Welcome!

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! --HyperSonic X (talk) 00:50, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Please explain

See posts my X! and my response at BN. Please explain.RlevseTalk 22:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

BetacommandBot

Hi there, I happened to notice a post made by your bot on a talkpage about an unfree image issue. After looking into it a bit it seemed like a really helpful bot and I read a bit about you too. Since your editing restrictions seem to be ended, would you consider reenabling your useful bot? Kindzmarauli (talk) 06:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm trying to stay away from non-free images on a large scale, it causes too much drama. ΔT The only constant 10:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Ah, yes I see your point. Well, looking forward to some great bots. Kindzmarauli (talk) 16:32, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Unicode usernames

Is it allowed on Wikipdia (or Wikimedia at all) to use Unicode characters in your username (as you do with your triangle, Δ)? It's impossible to write such characters on my keyboard. Therefore, I can only access your user- and user talk page by clicking on a direct link. /HeyMid (contributions) 11:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Unicode is allowed, and Δ gets the same thing along with part of the insert bar at the bottom of the edit page. There are a lot of users, (non-english wikis) where almost all their users have unicode usernames. ΔT The only constant 11:39, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Just think of him as the artisteditor formerly known as Betacommand :) --Hammersoft (talk) 17:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

What I mean is that some users/readers may have older computers with older operating systems (OS's) with older web browsers which may not support Unicode characters, and therefore, these characters may display weirdly and/or ugly or maybe not at all on their screens. Thanks, /HeyMid (contributions) 17:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry!

I know this is the lamest excuse ever, but my finger slipped on the the "q" key (which is the revert button in the script I'm using). Sorry! Whisky drinker | HJ's sock 22:18, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I am sorry, after I reverted you the first time, all your edits flash across my screen with a big red "probable vandalism" warning. I've left a note for the script's developer to see if there's any way of getting your edits removed. I am sorry though. Btw, in future, you can direct messages to User talk:HJ Mitchell. Whisky drinker | HJ's sock 00:51, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

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Betacommand (or deltacommand now, i guess), would you mind looking over Xqts response on Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Xqbot 3 so we can move the BRFA along? Tim1357 talk 23:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

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July 2010

This is the final warning you will receive regarding your disruptive edits.
The next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did to Zero-turn mower, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.   — Jeff G. ツ 19:48, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

  • Uh, you want to try again? What, specifically, is disruptive about [1] and [2]? Applying a 4th stage warning is highly inappropriate in this case. Perhaps you should be warned about inappropriate use of templates? If you disagree with the content of the article as Δ left it, take it to the article talk page rather than casting out warning templates to long established users. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:16, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
This is multiple reverts/templates that this user has placed, that where incorrect. He is giving me a final warning for removing a see also section that was completely external links, and for removing inline links to company websites (which where right next to links to their wiki pages) which are not needed and spamish. Jeff may need more of his actions reviewed to see if this is a more serious issue, but due to me already having a conflict of interest I dont want to personally go down that route. If his actions are this inappropriate towards established users, how many users has he bitten? ΔT The only constant 22:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
yup, bitey; and that <font size="4"> sig-vio is still there. Cheers, Jack Merridew 06:24, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I placed a message at his talk page here. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I already replied at User_talk:Jeff_G.#What_are_you_doing.3F. The user removed a whole section, had already had at least three warnings in the preceding four days, and is no newbie (with one ban and over two dozen blocks, not to mention the current Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification#Request_for_clarification:_User:Betacommand). As regards my signature, please see User talk:Jeff G./Archives/2010/May#Signature.2C.   — Jeff G. ツ 20:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
You need to learn to actually read what the previous warnings are for before placing your foot in your mouth. All of the previous "vandalism" warnings where errors, see User_talk:Δ/20100701#Sorry.21 for an example, that particular user reverted my edits three times and gave me "vandalism" templates, only to shortly revert his own edits because he screwed up. If you actually took the time to familiarize yourself with policy (WP:SEEALSO in this case) you would realize that my edits are 100% within policy and that see also sections should only contain relevant wikilinks to articles that already exist. when I made this edit to bring Zero-turn mower into compliance with wiki-standards you not only decided that current guidelines are wrong, but that me trying to tidy up said article was vandalism. Which per Wikipedia:Vandalism is Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia.. Please explain how my edit can be defined in any way as an compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. Something that its not. Just because someone removes a section of an article, it does not mean that its vandalism. Yes vandals often remove sections, however that does not automatically define the removal of sections as vandalism. Jimmy removes sections from articles quite often see example would you blindly revert that and give him a final warning? Hell no, doing so would probably get you indef blocked. So please don't be a click-monkey, and take a look at the whole picture before you act. ΔT The only constant 22:14, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Your application of the level 4 warning was improper. What Δ did was not vandalism or disruptive. Since I found another example of improper application of the uw-vandal4 template, this is not isolated. I've cautioned you about appropriate use. I hope you take the caution to heart. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:08, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
User_talk:Jeff_G.#What_are_you_doing.3F is related post by User:MuZemike ΔT The only constant 19:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I've checked the one edit and also the other-language uses of Delta (talk · contribs) and don't see it as a barrier to usurp for an easy-to-type doppelganger. Would suggest you go ahead and file at WP:USURP... –xenotalk 13:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

  • That's probably a good idea. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:50, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

FYI

WP:A/R/CL#Request for clarification: User:Betacommand. –xenotalk 17:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

  • Even if it was a restriction without a one year time limit, he hasn't violated it. He's still continued to edit under one username. There is no policy preventing a person from abandoning one account in favor of another. His last edit as Betacommand was 20:56, 11 July 2010. His first edit as Δ was 21:44, 11 July 2010. There is no crossover, no editing as two accounts. With respect to the denial of the change three years earlier, consensus can change. Even if all the restrictions were in place even now, the restrictions do not prohibit him from starting a new account and abandoning his old. This filing is badgering of this editor. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:01, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
As I stated at BN, when I made my original request the username policy did not allow non-Latin usernames. This has since changed and thus my new name is well within policy. ΔT The only constant 21:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
If the non-Latin character had been the only concern, there would have been no need to request clarification as that issue could've been handled by bureaucrats within the framework of the username policy. As it stands, there are more barriers to your resumption of bot activity than previously indicated. I've pinged MBisanz to see if he could tackle the community-side restrictions; a formal amendment might be required from ArbCom to allow editing from more than one account (unless they handle it during the clarification request). –xenotalk 13:24, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

For one year, you are (i) topic-banned from any non-free-content-related work and related talk pages; (ii) subject to a 0RR restriction on any free-content-image-related work and related talk pages; (iii) prohibited from operating bots or running automated scripts of whatever nature; (iv) prohibited from inducing or attempting to induce others to operate bots or run automated scripts; and (v) subject to an editing throttle of a maximum of four edits every ten minutes (excludes reversion of blatant vandalism). After six months, you may apply to ArbCom for a review of the terms of this condition.

Given the phrasing of their statement, I read it as that after one year I am (i) able to comment/edit non-free related material. (iii) Allowed to run bots, and use automated/simi auto tools. (iv) allowed to give more input in BRFA/bot related issues (v) No longer have an edit throttle.
I see that as fairly clear cut. If I am allowed to operate a bot I am allowed to use a bot account. Which per item 3 of the conditions for unban is what was stated. ΔT The only constant 16:10, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Best to ask them (and I see you have). There are also the community restrictions still in place (so your inversion isn't quite accurate). –xenotalk 16:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Relaxing or rescinding of community-imposed restrictions on User:Betacommand / Δ. –xenotalk 13:49, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

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HI!

Hi triangle, your name is funny it made me laugh ahahahaha BAIIIIIIII Solar Rocker|Talk to me! 14:46, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

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You may wish to see this. NW (Talk) 15:51, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

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