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Liège waffles[1]

Hoping someone will be willing to take a look at Horror film and the talk page there, where Andrzejbanas is exhibiting disruptive behavior issues include ownership, sealioning, refusing to accept consensus is against them, and refusing to revert their edits made against that consensus once it was pointed out to them. When an issue is addressed, they move to a new one, creating walls of text that keep accusing other editors of not being willing to continue discussing and explaining.
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It started with this reversion, where they wrote in the edit summary there are certainly horror films set during Christmas, but without some page citation from that book, all the other articles just connect the dots that "here are a list of alternative Christmas films" or "here are some horror films set around Christmas time" without really isolating it as a genre.
  1. Here, after I'd found those page#s, they reverted again, this time saying I'd added the info back without addressing concerns, which wasn't true.
  2. Here argued that none of the sources that none of them describe it as a genre, which wasn't true, and in fact in the content they'd removed included a note I'd added quoting the book source calling it a genre three different times.
  3. Here that the genre wasn't well-defined. I pointed out that it doesn't have to be well-defined in order to exist, and that an entire book of essays about the genre had been published by an established publisher.
  4. Here that they didn't find the book's arguments convincing.
  5. Here argued "seems irregularly represented against other horror cycles here such as the slasher, teen horror film, or the slasher." I pointed out that Teen horror doesn't even exist except as a redirect.
  6. Here told me that if I didn't even know what a genre cycle was, I shouldn't be trying to write about film.
  7. Here said calling it a genre was FRINGE.
  8. Here that nothing in the sources provided any value to the reader. I pointed out that my proposed addition told the reader The essential understanding readers take away is that horror includes a subgenre of Christmas horror. It seems to have a history, to have emerged as a genre fifty years ago and have been referred to as a subgenre as recently as two years ago. Those are things readers may want to know about the overall genre.
  9. Here that they never heard the term in common use.
  10. Here that an entire book of essays about the genre published by an established publisher wasn't sufficient to show the genre existed, saying, I repeat, this is not a substantial sub-genre, despite there being a book by a non-academic on the topic.
  11. Here that other than the book, there were only listicles. I pointed out that NPR and Hollywood Reporter both were calling it a genre or subgenre and giving it lengthy treatment.
  12. Here that they'd found errors in books by that publisher and implied NPR and HR were well-disguised listicle content. Which is not true, both describe the genre and its appeal at length. The fact they mention multiple highly-regarded examples does not make those articles listicles.
  13. Here circled back to that there was nothing in the three sources that provided valuable information. Twice.
  14. At this point, two other editors came in and agreed it was a legitimate genre. To which they responded, I'm not saying that there isn't such a genre, but due to it's sort of wobbly discussion, there is no real way to make it stand on it's own as it hasn't received critical attention. This is why I'm iffy on including it here, and not calling for a removal on the article or anything on it's own. The discussion isn't so much if it's real or not anymore, it's how we can include it here with saying something that gives the genre prominence. As I can't even write that on my own (and I've tried), I'm not sure what the best method is to include it. Which seems pretty WP:OWNy -- if they can't write it, it doesn't go in?
GI60 then proposed entirely new language, which I supported, and Andrjez started the whole rigamarole over with that proposal. GI60 at that point agreed that he and I had done our due diligence and his third opinion provided consensus, and we added the language, and Andrjez reverted again saying there was no consensus. Then he said he hadn't seen the discussion between me and GI60, but still didn't revert himself after being asked multiple times on my talk, his talk, and the article talk. And he's still arguing that neither of us has explained what the issue is and that I'm dodging his questions. The whole thing could be another dozen diffs.


Christmas horror[edit]

Main article: Christmas horror

Christmas in literature has historically included elements of "darkness" – fright, misery, death and decay – dating as far back as the biblical account of the Massacre of the Innocents and more recently in works such as E. T. A. Hoffmann's "The Nutcracker and the Mouse King" (1816) and Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol (1843).[1][2] The Christmas horror genre in film emerged in the 1970s,[2] featuring "scaled up" horror elements that the The Hollywood Reporter calls a "modern reinvention of the Christmas ghost story".[1] One of the earliest entries is Silent Night, Bloody Night (1972), and this was soon followed by Black Christmas (1974), which is often credited with being one of the most influential that inspired other films in the genre.[1][2]

References[edit]

  1. ^ a b c d Newby, Richard (2018-12-21). "The Strange Appeal of Christmas Horror". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 2023-12-03.
  2. ^ a b c Cite error: The named reference Ulaby was invoked but never defined (see the help page).




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Lalo (sometimes Haitian lalo) is a popular Haitian food made from the leaves of Corchorus olitorius (primary source of jute). Lalo is usually prepared with crab, pork or beef, served with white rice and mashed peas.[1]


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Mulukhiyah

References[edit]

  1. ^ JEAN, Wilner (23 August 2022). "Gastronomie: des plats traditionnels haïtiens sur les papilles à l'IERAH/ISERSS". lenational.org. Retrieved 4 February 2023.

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  1. ^ Macauley, Donald (2013-06-07). The Power of Robert Simpson: A Biography. Xlibris Corporation. ISBN 978-1-4797-9439-3.
  2. ^ Iannaccone, Marianna (2021-02-10). John Florio's Italian & English Sonnets. Lulu.com. ISBN 978-1-716-11497-7.








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