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Question from Miracle009 (12:43, 1 April 2024)

Hello! how do i start a citation? --Miracle009 (talk) 12:43, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Miracle009! Welcome to Wikipedia! There is a help page for beginners that will guide you through how to cite a reference or source in an article. You can view this page by clicking here. please let me know if I can assist you with anything else, and I'll be happy to lend you a hand. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from MAYAY BOL LAM on Global Facility Management Association (05:24, 2 April 2024)

Hello mentor, I would like to be oriented concerning this great professional society --MAYAY BOL LAM (talk) 05:24, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi MAYAY BOL LAM! Welcome to Wikipedia! Can you elaborate as to exactly what you'd like my assistance with? Is it to edit this article? Research it? Or make other changes? :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:38, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Foggyinsf (18:46, 2 April 2024)

Hi — I just uploaded an image using the "upload wizard." I need to get back to the page in order to grab the URL. How can I find the image or page again --Foggyinsf (talk) 18:46, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

HI Foggyinsf! Welcome to Wikipedia! Are you looking for the location that you just uploaded the particular file to? It looks like you uploaded the image to the WikiMedia Commons - specifically, to this location. :-) Looking at the image you've uploaded, I see that this is a logo to a company or organization. Since you've uploaded media of this nature to the project, I must urge you to be very cautious. You must avoid violating any of Wikipedia's policies on copyrights. Editors (especially new and novice editors) are routinely warned, restricted, and blocked for violating copyright policies. I will also leave you a link to this policy page section, which particularly discusses non-free logos. I highly recommend that you take the time to review and understand the policies I've linked you to here. Please don't hesitate to reach out to me if you run into any questions or need help understanding a certain policy. I'll be happy to help! :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:22, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm confident I am not violating copyright policies. I work for Family Caregiver Alliance. If there's a question, will I be contacted before there might be any question of violation? Again, thanks. Foggyinsf (talk) 19:28, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Foggyinsf - Someone will usually leave a message on your user talk page and will bring forth any concerns, yes. Are you being paid or compensated by the Family Caregiver Alliance in any way, shape, form, manner, or amount to be here on Wikipedia and contribute? If so, you need to disclose this information - per Wikipedia's Terms of Use. You can find more information about this requirement (as well as find instructions to follow that will satisfy this requirement) by navigating to this page. Please let me know if I can assist you with anything or if you run into any questions. I'm here to help, and I'll be happy to do so. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:37, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Camni cialbokki (11:14, 3 April 2024)

I don't find many mistakes in a article --Camni cialbokki (talk) 11:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Camni cialbokki! Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm not sure of your question here - are you trying to find articles with issues that you can improve? If so, take a look at Wikipedia's backlog page. There are many articles listed here (and sorted by type of issue) that you can choose from to improve and fix. What's even better is that you're not only improving the project and fixing issues on an article, but you're also helping to keep the backlog of tasks from falling even further behind! :-D Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:07, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Olga Gandurina (20:09, 3 April 2024)

Hello! Noce to meet you. How to properly add links to publications if they are in 3 different languages? Should they be published all together or separately? --Olga Gandurina (talk) 20:09, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Olga Gandurina! Welcome to Wikipedia! We're glad that you decided to join us, and I sincerely hope that you take off your jacket, pull up a chair, and stay with us for awhile! :-) The answer to your question depends on the situation. Are the references that are in different languages the exact same publication (i.e. you want to reference a book's text, and have the English, Spanish, and French versions), or are you just referring to referencing different sources and the fact that the language between them are different? Let me know; I'll be able to best answer your question once I know which situation you're referring to. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
I want to add articles to the wiki about French and Georgian artists. They are quite well known; many publications have been published about them in different languages. Now I published my first biography, but the service deleted it. There I indicated all the articles in English, French, Georgian and Russian. Probably because of this Olga Gandurina (talk) 08:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Olga Gandurina - Thanks for responding and for providing me with additional information. The country that a person is born from and what language they speak do not factor in any way, shape, or form in regards to whether or not an article that's created about them is deleted or not. In my 17 years of experience on this project, I can tell you that an article deletion is usually due to one of two reasons: Either the article met A7 of Wikipedia's speedy deletion criteria (it didn't have any statements that assert a credible claim of significance of the article subject), or because it was determined by consensus to merit deletion under the articles for deletion process due to the subject lacking notability (no reliable sources exist, or an insufficient number of them exist to show that the article subject is notable). In the end, it's the article subject's notability that most new and novice (even established) editors struggle to understand or be able to demonstrate with articles they create.
Wikipedia's notability guidelines are what I absolutely recommend that you go through, review, and make sure that you understand. If you run into any questions, or if you need me to clarify or explain anything within those guidelines, please do not hesitate to reach out to me here and I'll be happy to assist you with anything that you need. Don't be overwhelmed (or if you start feeling that way after you spend time reading through the guidelines); there's a lot to take in. Start by reading through the general notability guidelines first, then read through the more-specific notability guidelines for articles about people. No need to venture far from those areas; if you someday wish to create articles about non-people, the guidelines will still be there for you to read. ;-) I hope my response has helped to point you in the right direction. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:30, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Polarays (13:52, 6 April 2024)

This is mostly just a curiosity but should we add a archive url even if the normal link is still functional? Would it be rude to replace all links with archive ones, or should we just replace ones that are old, or none at all? --Polarays (talk) 13:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Polarays - I don't see a problem with that. You might check out the page on citing sources, as there's likely a way to publish an archive, but other than that - have at it! Be bold! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:56, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from RealmUnknown (21:51, 6 April 2024)

Hello there,

Hope all is well. Lol, sorry, not entirely sure how message and respond with a mentor; for sure don't want to come across as too needy with questions. I know that all to well from IRL work 😅

I've been enjoying my time here so far. Learning to start off small, reading through various guideline articles and even sitting in on a local editing meet-up in town. Still got a lot to learn however. I figured I'd learn more quickly by jumping into the deep-end and building out a fresh new draft article (If you wish to see 😊, link is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Andr%C3%A9_Armenante). For sure has been useful in learning how to use sourcing resources, structuring sections, proofreading, etc.

That all said, I did attempt to have it reviewed for publishing and been hit with a wall. I probably should have chosen an individual a bit more "mainstream" since unfortunately it seems that person does not pass the independently covered mark. Was thinking of trying my hand at other article makings. Either starting solo and focusing on historical sights in my region (Northeast), or helping out others.

Super long story short, apologies, but I was wondering if you by chance had any tips or could point me in any direction, towards any communities or hubs when it comes to creating new articles? One of my biggest passions is researching and compiling information. Was how I managed to even dig up some obscure physical publications/prints about the subject of the first article attempt 🤣.

Its a pleasure to be aquatinted, and thanks for having me as a part of the Wiki community, I hope I can help further improve :)

~ Realm (Shane) --RealmUnknown (talk) 21:51, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

RealmUnknown - First of all, don't apologize! You're in the right place, and I'm happy to help! I'm super happy that you're enjoying your time on Wikipedia, and I really do hope that you stick with us. We need users like you, and you are most welcome here! I should be apologizing to you for taking so long to respond. Life is busy, but I'm tied down to my house due to being on call for work. :-) Dang, you've been to a local meet-up! That's... that's awesome. I commend you 100% for being so committed and over the short time you've been here! If we were at a bar, I'd raise my glass to you, and take a big drink. I seriously appreciate your dedication! DO NOT GIVE UP! My first article (actually, like two) were either merged or deleted. It was simply because I wasn't aware of the guidelines. You sound like a smart, stand-up person; you'll have no problem learning it at all. :-D
Okay, let's answer your question... First and foremost, what you must know is the fact that articles that do not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines will almost certainly be deleted under Wikipedia's articles for deletion guidelines. This is a response that I provided to a user who published an article but had it listed on AFD by another editor. "WHAT?!! Why on Earth is my article being listed here?!!", he exclaimed. This is what I said:

"The main thing that you absolutely must know and understand regarding AFD is this: Discussions there and regarding whether to keep or delete an article will not take the quality of the article itself (its content, style, formatting, standards, length, use of templates, images, infoboxes, category use, sources cited, etc) into account. Knowing and understanding this fact as early, clearly, and directly as possible will prevent you from giving yourself the false belief that you'll be able to save the article from being deleted as a result of the AFD process by simply editing it, expanding it, or improving it. This is not the case nor has it ever been, because the article's content or quality is not given any kind of consideration. So, in case I haven't made myself very clear: There are no edits or changes that you can make to the article that will influence the input or "votes" of the discussion's participants, nor cause them to decide differently as to whether or not the article should be kept.

You're very likely asking yourself right now, "Well, if the article's content and quality isn't taken into consideration, then... what is?" The short answer is simple to explain: These discussions will take the notability of the article's subject (who or what the article is supposed to be about) into account, and nothing else. In short, editors must show that the subject or topic of a given article is notable. How do you do that? By demonstrating that the article subject or topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are secondary and independent of the article subject. Basically, they're not looking at the quality of the article that's written here, but the availability of secondary reliable sources that can be researched and found (either on the internet, in print media, etc) and that provide primary coverage (not just passing mention in one-or-two sentences) of the article subject. For more information, see Wikipedia's general notability guidelines.

Think of it like this: If, for example, the Barrack Obama or Abraham Lincoln articles were only a few paragraphs long and didn't provide many or very good sources, these articles would be kept if I were to nominate them for a discussion at AFD. That's because, well, they're notable people... :-) It's quite easy to go onto Google and type those names in - you're going to find numerous sources that are reliable, provide primary coverage on these individuals, and show that they are indeed very notable in American History. Continuing with the example: We wouldn't delete these articles under the AFD process just because their quality is poor (or perhaps very poor), or because they are not long or because they lack content, or don't have any or enough sources cited. The articles just need to be expanded and improved is all...

Let's talk about why we determine the notability of a subject in this manner: Let's say that I create an extensively-written article about some random Joe person. The article itself is stellar - it's impressive in length, detail, and with the use of images, templates, and other data. Well, that's all really nice and dandy... but if absolutely no references, sources, information, media, or data can be found in libraries, online search engines, and/or in publication about this random Joe person that I wrote this awesome article about, then the article subject obviously can't be considered to be notable - hence, the article, regardless of its content and quality, would be deleted.

In short: There's really nothing you can do to the article itself that will change the outcome of the discussion. Don't ever go into an AFD discussion with the belief, hope, or expectation that improving the article's content to be "up to standard" will result in the article being kept. Either the article subject is notable or they aren't - that's what the discussion is created to determine. If anything, take the resulting outcome as a good learning experience for you. Before you write your next article, I'm sure that you'll be much more well-versed in Wikipedia's notability guidelines, and you'll create an article that will do well. I created a few articles when I was new on Wikipedia, and I was angry and disappointed when they were deleted - it can be really discouraging... All that time wasted. However, I kept with it, and I took the time to know and understand the policies and guidelines and why they're important. In the end, it helped improve my editing and my experience a lot.

Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. Take some time and read through those guidelines. If you have any questions about them, let me know! I'll be happy to answer them and explain, or clarify anything that's confusing. You're doing well here! If anything, the article gets deleted, and this is just a minor setback. You'll be a better editor moving forward either way. I've been there myself; I'm not here today and with the experience and knowledge that I have because I got everything right and did perfectly. I've made more than my fair share of mistakes. Trust me... ;-)"

On that note, please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them! :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Prophet Michael, God's Disciple (15:55, 7 April 2024)

I create a new page? For a new celebrity profile. --Prophet Michael, God's Disciple (talk) 15:55, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Prophet Michael, God's Disciple - Hi there! Welcome to Wikipedia! I'll be happy to help! ;-)
Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. Those tutorial pages will provide you with many important walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will familiarize you with our policies and guidelines, how Wikipedia works, how to navigate around the site, and how to find important locations and pages. Most users who take this advice, read through those pages, and complete the new user tutorial usually tell me later that they were significantly helpful to them, and saved them hours of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise.
Please let me know if I can help you with anything else. I'll be happy to do so. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:32, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

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i'm sorry. i never knew the rules. you banned me at 172.177.76.40 and I just wanted to remember my password cuz I forget easily so I put my password in my username... i am s̸orry, oshwah 172.117.76.40 (talk) 02:40, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Help with Article for Class Project

Hi Oshwah,

My name is Jeorgia O'Brien. I am a student at Washington University in St. Louis where I am taking a class called Outcasts and Outlaws: Othering in Modern Europe. In the beginning of my progress, you left a note on my talk page allowing me to reach out for help or questions. The time has come that I have questions!

I have gone through all of Wikipedia's training modules, and I have worked closely with my class and professor to create an article that is suitable for Wikipedia. Currently, I have written an article about George John Seaton who was a prisoner and then a slave. As part of the course, we had to publish our articles about two weeks ago. My article was immediately deleted by an editor. I made changes to the article to increase notability and republished with the permission of my professor. The same editor immediately nominated my article for deletion. After nominating my article for deletion, the said that they thought my article was written by a chat-bot. This is in no way the case! I have since implemented many more changes and have kindly asked the editor to look over the article again. I am reaching out to you to see if you'd be willing to review my article, give me advise on further changes, and potentially comment on the article's deletion talk page.

Please get back to me when you are able to. Thank you!

Best, Jeorgiaobrien (talk) 04:08, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Jeorgiaobrien! Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm very happy that you came to me with questions and to seek advice, and I'll be happy to help. Your article isn't deleted; it's only listed so that a discussion about deleting it can take place. That doesn't mean anything other than that users are talking about it. The discussion is here (don't contribute or edit the page, since you're involved due to being the creator). If you read my answer to a similar request for help (link is here), I explain the importance and the concept of notability. It will answer any questions you have on that subject. In short, FEAR NOT! In the end, everything will be fine. :-)
Please let me know if you have any more questions or if I can provide you with input or advice with anything else. I'll be happy to lend a hand. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:48, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! Jeorgiaobrien (talk) 15:54, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Claimonylop1 (13:34, 12 April 2024)

Hi! I made a few page edit requests. How long do those take to be addressed, typically? Thanks! --Claimonylop1 (talk) 13:34, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

(by talk reader) @Claimonylop1: You mistakenly used the nowiki wrapper in all your prior requests, which means no one has likely seen them prior to now. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:54, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Should I delete that wrapper? New here, so still getting used to the system. Thanks! Claimonylop1 (talk) 14:14, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
I've already fixed it for you, so all your requests now show up in Category:Wikipedia conflict of interest edit requests. Chris Troutman (talk) 14:16, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Thank you Claimonylop1 (talk) 14:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Claimonylop1 - Chris Troutman saves the day again while I'm offline and buried with work! :-) Thank you! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

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Codename Noreste - 10-4; I'll take a look tonight. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:18, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Codename Noreste - Hey, sorry, I'm on call this weekend and dealing with... people... I'll read your email soon; you have my word. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Israel bombing of Iranian embassy talk pages messy after non-consensus RM and revert

Help to sort out the talk pages current consensus 'Israeli bombing...' vs non-consensus 'bombing...' would be nice. Boud (talk) 13:23, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm thinking of adding a comment on "the" (which?) talk page , but I don't want to make shifting/swapping/merging more difficult. Currently, it only makes sense editing the redirect talk page 'Talk:bombing ...' Boud (talk) 14:05, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Boud - Discuss your concerns directly on the article's talk page. I'm available if you need help. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
I see that this wasn't as trivial for an uninvolved admin as I thought it was. I was only thinking of the contradiction between NAME1 as the current name in mainspace and Talk:NAME1 redirecting to Talk:NAME2; I didn't realise that the close of the RM from NAME0 to NAME1 was unclear. Anyway, looks OK to me now (independently of whether the current name should be RMed again). Boud (talk) 19:06, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Filter 53

I made a small update to filter 53 for a specific LTA that had some previous strings in that filter. I sent some more details in Discord, but the Notes show the entire change. I tested it out on both positive and negative examples, it doesn't seem to be causing false positives, etc. If there's a better filter for the regex additions, please feel free to move it. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 01:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Daniel Quinlan - Sounds good to me! Thanks for adding the changes you made. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Kunal243456sahil (06:44, 16 April 2024)

HI --Kunal243456sahil (talk) 06:44, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

How to update hyperlinks?

Hi, How do I update the links of my website because we've done the domain migration and I'd like to replace the current website links to new website link. Sumalatha G (talk) 15:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

(by talk reader) @Sumalatha G: Which website is that? Chris Troutman (talk) 16:01, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi,
Can someone guide me here? Thanks Sumalatha G (talk) 09:58, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
Sumalatha G - It depends on what you're talking about exactly. Where are you referring to? Is it an article? User page? You generally should not edit or interact with any articles that you have a conflict of interest with. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:50, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
Understood! Thanks for the clarification. But, what if a site which I own or belong to (example: abc.com which is providing valuable information to readers) is being mentioned on wikipedia and I've migrated this domain to xyz.com, which is also owned by me. In this case, can I edit the existing link and replace the information with the new link? If yes, could you please tell me the procedure to do it? 223.186.226.195 (talk) 07:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Please help me with this. Thanks Sumalatha G (talk) 07:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Please guide. Thanks Sumalatha G (talk) 05:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Vojo Milo (06:53, 17 April 2024)

Hi! How do I change my user name Vojo Milo to my full name Vojo Milovanovic? --Vojo Milo (talk) 06:53, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

(by talk reader) @Vojo Milo: If you want to change your username, see WP:CHU. I recommend against it. I edit under my real name but most everyone else is pseudonymous because they value their privacy. Revealing your name might not be an issue for you now but it could be ten years from now. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:25, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Suffusion of Yellow alt 13

Wow, that was fast! I literally created the account from the Android app, put the phone down and by the time I had the user page open, it was blocked! At least my phone was on a different IP... Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:25, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Suffusion of Yellow - Okay, it was you that created the account. It's unblocked now; thanks for letting me know. Sorry about that! Just trying to watch peoples' backs. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
No problem, I've had my share of impersonators so I don't mind. Normally I create new accounts while logged in, but I was using a different device. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
And now it's locked too, (ping Bsadowski1). Mental note: Create the user page first next time. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:33, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
Suffusion of Yellow - Always use your account to create alternative accounts or doppelgänger accounts. It will keep your account creation logs (as well as others) out of many abuse logs. That's what got my attention. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Suffusion of Yellow - That account is no longer locked. I expedited that for you. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I usually do that, but I wanted to see what new users are presented with when they create an account through the Android app. See WP:VPT#"Reviewed an image suggestion" user log entry for context. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 00:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 Unlocked AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 00:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 00:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Haregua on Talk:Amazon (company) (07:57, 18 April 2024)

Hello, how do you do? am 23 & studying cinematography and photography and i wanna buy a camera from amazon or somewhere . but 'am in ethiopia .here camera is very expensive tool. can someone help me plz? am thankful . --Haregua (talk) 07:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Haregua! Welcome to Wikipedia! Since this project encompasses an Encyclopedia, I won't be able to provide assistance with this kind of request. However, if I can answer any Wikipedia-related questions, I'll be happy to help! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:11, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Souniel Yadav

Noting your past activity on this SPI, I am requesting you to take a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Souniel Yadav. Thanks Srijanx22 (talk) 12:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Srijanx22! I apologize for the delay returning your message here. It looks like this SPI case has since closed; do you still need my input or assistance? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:12, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Polarays (13:58, 22 April 2024)

Hi, hope you're having a great day!

I was editing some articles and came across a claim stating something like "xxx is often used in/for y" and there was a citation needed on that statement. My question is, how can I find a citation for the popularity of something? For example if there are several pages that refer to xxx being used for y (but not of the meathods popularity), I can't reference all of them right? What if a source says one big company uses xxx for y? What is the typical route one can do to find such a citation? --Polarays (talk) 13:58, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Polarays! If it's common knowledge, citing a reference isn't necessary. If it's something specific that isn't common knowledge, I might suggest places such as Google Scholar or similar search engine for peer-reviewed academic journals or studies; those will definitely help in regards to finding information that you can then use in a citation as a reference.
There's rarely going to be a source out there that says, verbatim, "X is often used in Y" and that would perfectly state exactly what you're looking to reference or add. Often, that's not the case for many statements that need or should have a citation to a reliable source. I would just point to a few significant academic studies, journals, or papers that detail this article subject in-depth.
Example: The statement, "Apples are often used as food" obviously doesn't need a reference; "Computers are often used as doorstops"? Yeeeah, that one's going to be a hard sell unless you have significant sources cited that detail this phenomenon as a globally accepted practice or globally used practice. :-)
Did I answer your questions? If not, please let me know. I'm happy to help! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:32, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for reply!,
When you say 'point to a few significant academic studies, journals...' do you mean we should put multiple references on the same statement (with the references pointing to some papers that mentions the practice, even if it is in passing)?
Just wanted to ask for clarity, appreciate all the help! Polarays (talk) 11:45, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Polarays - Correct. If anything, this is good to do in case one of the references deletes the information or goes offline; we'll still have your references to the other sources. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:42, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Question about Wiki(data) graphs

Hi, I noticed you uploaded this graph of requests for adminship. I think this is a really unique idea. How did you generate this graph? How did you get the data for the graph? I wonder if there could be a WP:BOT that programatically generates updated graphs of this manner. Thank you, pauliesnug (message / contribs) 20:14, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Pauliesnug! Ohhhh boy.... LOL. To answer your question, I'm going to take you through a lot of... data, so prepare yourself. :-)
If you navigate to this summary of RFA outcomes by year, go ahead and click on... let's do 2005. Are you at that page? Great! This is a page of the raw data detailing each RFA that was submitted during that year; candidate, date and time, number of support, neutral, and oppose votes, and the outcome. If you look at the page history, you'll see that I've gone through these pages and added this data manually... to each data row. Yes, all of them... If you ask if that was time consuming, I would respond with an astounding, "YES!" But this is the data that is used to calculate each summary count by year that I initially linked you to. From that data, I... really didn't do anything special... just added it to an Excel spreadsheet, put in a few formulas, and graphed it out. :-)
Back then, RFA tallies and outcomes weren't so closely monitored and compiled into data compared to how it is now. As far as designing a bot goes, I always have an open mind (if you knew me well, you'd already know this). However, I don't mind kicking open the same document once a year to add the new summary information and output an updated graph... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:54, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Wow!! Oshwah that is a hecktonne of data. That's so cool, sounds like so much effort haha! So interesting... thank you for sharing. I wonder if more cool Wikipedia data science could be done with enough determination and archival efforts... pauliesnug (message / contribs) 06:35, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Useralrashidi404 (10:26, 23 April 2024)

hello how can i creat a wikipedia --Useralrashidi404 (talk) 10:26, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Useralrashidi404! Welcome! Are you perhaps referring to an article? Check out this help page that details this and assists new users with article creation. Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to help. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Jcubic (19:16, 27 April 2024)

Why I don't get any notifications about my watch list? It looks like it doesn't work on English Wikipedia. On Polish, I have notification about each edit for watched articles. On EN Wiki, I didn't even get one notification. --jcubic (talk) 19:16, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Jcubic! No; watched items here will only populate your watchlist with recent changes and other such logs. If you're looking for a notification when an edit is made to an article or page, that would drive you insane and very quickly. If you wish to "watch" a discussion, you should use the "[Subscribe]" link that appears on the right side next to the discussions section header. If you do this, you will receive notifications each time someone modifies or adds something to that discussion. Is that maybe what you're looking for? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
But this is what I have on Polish Wikipedia. I get an email after each modification of watched page. With link to diff. But in Polish Wikipedia we need to approve the change that are not visible until approved. Some of them are SPAM so I can reject the edit. I don't need to deep deep into some list to do this.
I was hoping to have same feature on En Wiki. Also I thought that Subscribe to discussion is the same as watching/staring to article you only subscribe to thread instead of whole page. But it seems this works differently on English Wikipedia. jcubic (talk) 12:41, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
jcubic - Interesting; that would drive me insane! :-) I could be wrong, but there might be a setting within your preferences that might enable what you're looking for... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:44, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Avenger2006 (17:35, 30 April 2024)

I am blocked by someone please revoke it --Avenger2006 (talk) 17:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Avenger2006 - See this page for instructions for how to properly appeal your block or request an unblock. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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