Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas of Tolentino

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:43, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Thomas of Tolentino

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• ... that St Thomas was martyred in India and buried in China but his head lies in his hometown of Tolentino, Italy?
  • ALT1:... that Thomas of Tolentino’s head lies in Tolentino, Italy, and his feet in Quanzhou, China?
  • ALT2:... that St Thomas of Tolentino was martyred for telling an Islamic judge what he really thought of Muhammad?
  • ALT3:... that St Thomas of Tolentino was martyred for discussing his religious beliefs during a medieval domestic violence case in India?
  • ALT4:... that St Thomas of Tolentino was jailed by Christians and beheaded by Muslims for his religious beliefs?
  • ALT5:... that St Thomas of Tolentino decided to become a missionary after being repeatedly thrown in jail by the Christians back home?
  • ALT6:... that St Thomas of Tolentino tried to launch a crusade to protect the Armenians from Muslim invasions, despite considering them heretics?
  • ALT7:... that St Thomas of Tolentino traveled to Sis to debate Christian theology with Armenians?

• Reviewed: will do Joseph Heleluhe

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 00:00, 15 November 2016 (UTC).

• Note to reviewers: You don't need to source all the hooks; just the one you find most compelling. — LlywelynII 05:19, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
• The article was nominated 5 days after it was created. It is long enough and impeccably sourced, as well as rather intriguing. The nominator has reviewed another nomination as required. I strongly favour ALT4, and have taken the liberty to change the word order (to highlight the hooky fact) and to strike out the rest. ALT5 and ALT2 are also very good. I really cannot decide which hook I like best. An Italian beheaded for describing Muhammad as demonic during a medieval domestic violence case in India? That's simply brilliant. Perhaps a combination of ALT2 and ALT4 would be best, specifying that the Christians jailed him for criticizing the clergy's opulence and that the Muslims beheaded him for stating that Muhammad was the son of the Devil. Although, I have to wonder who reported this story, since all four missionaries were killed. Surtsicna (talk) 21:31, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

@Surtsicna: You have approved this nomination, but all the hooks are struck! Could you clarify the position? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:51, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I wanted to start striking all hooks except for ALT4 but then realized I could not make my mind. Due to an oversight, the first <s> remained in place. Which hook sounds best to you,Cwmhiraeth? Surtsicna (talk) 15:42, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

I have not looked at the article, but assuming all the hooks are properly supported and cited, I like ALT1 and ALT4 best. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:49, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Comment: I'm fine with running ALT1, ALT3, and ALT4 on different days if it's hard to choose just one. What does EEng think? — LlywelynII 09:58, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Personally I'd go with ALT3, since I think it's always salutary to recall past religious zealotry, on whomever's part. WRT to some of the other ALTs, "lies" is awkward -- I'd just say "is" or "are"; also, I don't see anything in the article about feet. EEng 13:03, 30 November 2016 (UTC)