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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 20:02, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

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St. Martin, Sindelfingen

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St. Martin in 2019
St. Martin in 2019

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:59, 6 September 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - could be better
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

QPQ: No - pending
Overall: Hi Gerda Arendt, a few issues:

  • it is one of the oldest church buildings of the Evangelische Landeskirche in Württemberg, and of the state Baden-Württemberg. This claim is not cited, if likely true.
  • The church is a venue of church music events. This is mentioned in the lede, but not in the article body and not sourced.
  • The church also served the local parish. This sentence is likewise not cited, but it seems so obvious that I suspect it is mentioned in one of the sources used in nearby sentences?
  • I would suggest altering the hook slightly to make it more interesting, by mentioning the fact that the original wood ceiling has been preserved.

And of course we need a QPQ :) –LordPickleII (talk) 18:56, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the thorough review. I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/To Ramona. - It's the normal thing for German articles to come without inline citations, and not always I find something in retrospect. I'll keep looking but need food first. The hook idea is good, same. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Yes, this is one of the main reasons I am active on the English Wikipedia, I like the inline citations much better. But it doesn't have to be solved today, so no pressure. Instead I wish you "Guten Appetit!" :) –LordPickleII (talk) 13:16, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Thank you! - I looked for the missing things and couldn't find anything easily, so dropped them for now. Given the dates, an observant reader will make the connection that it must be among the oldest. Parish: similar.
Interior of St. Martin
Interior of St. Martin
ALT1: ... that the flat wooden ceiling of St. Martin (pictured), the Lutheran main church of Sindelfingen built in the 11th century, is still preserved? Sadly no image. I'll add a bit about the organs, and perhaps that leads to another hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:47, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
no new hook, but perhaps a more suitable pic for a ceiling hook --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:56, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Hi Gerda Arendt, I found some sources and added back in what they support. At least for the wooden ceiling there's now "one of the oldest". I much prefer ALT1 so I've struck the original. I agree the new pic would probably go well with it; but I'd be fine with both pics. @Promoters you chose what you deem best, in regards to quality or whatever.
Approve ALT1 and both pics, with a preferece for the second (interior). –LordPeterII (talk) 15:46, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
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