Template:Did you know nominations/O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20
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The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 06:10, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20[edit]
- ... that on 11 June 1724, Bach began his second annual cantata cycle of chorale cantatas with O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20, for the first Sunday after Trinity?
- Reviewed: Mademoiselle Parisot
- Comment: for 1st Sunday after Trinity, 10 June, best 11 June, day of premiere
Created/expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Long enough, new enough, neutrally written, well cited throughout. Hook is cited to a German-language publication, and while I can't find an edition of it online, I am happy to accept it AGF. Have spot-checked for copyvio problem with the English-language sources online, and where passages are quoted they are in quotation-marks. Ready to go, but... Moonraker (talk) 00:21, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- Having said the above, the hook might be said to lack sparkle? Gerda, I wonder if you could do something with the line "Take me, Jesus, if you will, into the felicity of your tent"? Moonraker (talk) 00:21, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- Unfortunately not ;) That is the one (!) sparkle in grim thunder and would raise completely wrong expectations, also is a rather free translation of Freudenzelt. Let's think about a different hook. But much of this one should be there: the Sunday as an important date in the liturgical year and Bach's career, the beginning of the chorale cantatas, this is the first of 40 (I will source that). Perhaps the French Overture might be mentioned, or the last Judgement? The word passionate is used several times, I will try to get that in the article, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:31, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Bach was "fired up as never before" when he began his second cantata cycle of chorale cantatas with O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20, for the first Sunday after Trinity 1724?
- Unfortunately not ;) That is the one (!) sparkle in grim thunder and would raise completely wrong expectations, also is a rather free translation of Freudenzelt. Let's think about a different hook. But much of this one should be there: the Sunday as an important date in the liturgical year and Bach's career, the beginning of the chorale cantatas, this is the first of 40 (I will source that). Perhaps the French Overture might be mentioned, or the last Judgement? The word passionate is used several times, I will try to get that in the article, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:31, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- Having said the above, the hook might be said to lack sparkle? Gerda, I wonder if you could do something with the line "Take me, Jesus, if you will, into the felicity of your tent"? Moonraker (talk) 00:21, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- ALT1 is suitably cited. (I think you mean "felicity of your tent" translates Freudenzelt? In my view that's pretty near to the original, but if you aren't happy with it we had better forget it.) Ready to go with ALT1. Moonraker (talk) 10:55, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- The source (not me) translated Freudenzelt. Thanks for looking again! If you like you can add translations for "dass er jeweils über ein „gut, schön, alt, evangelisches und lutherisches Lied“ predigen würde, das Kantor Johann Schelle „in eine anmutige music zu bringen, und solche vor der Predigt ... hören zu lassen“ angeboten habe". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
