Template:Did you know nominations/Nicole Grobert

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:40, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Nicole Grobert[edit]

  • Reviewed: Miroslav Komárek
  • Comment: According to the source, she was the first person to be awarded a third RS fellowship, but it seems difficult to say that, also I'd count even four.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Wikimoo (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 17:47, 22 October 2017 (UTC).

ALT1: ... that Nicole Grobert, professor of nanomaterials at the University of Oxford, was awarded a Royal Society Industry Fellowship in 2016?
Article is new enough and long enough. It's neutral and well referenced. No pic to review. I simplified the hook. Hook is correctly formatted but not very interesting. I agree that a hook based on her being the first person to hold all those fellowships would be better. No close paraphrasing or copyvios found. It's good to go. I will look at an Alt if one is added. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:46, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for improving the hook, but if it's so big as dropping Japan (as a symbol of international collaboration) then please create an ALT. (I did it for you.)
ALT2: ... that Nicole Grobert, professor of nanomaterials at the University of Oxford, was awarded a Royal Society Industry Fellowship in 2016, her third fellowship from the Royal Society? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:14, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
@Philafrenzy: Are you able to approve ALT2, so that this nomination can move forward? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:47, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
It still doesn't say that she was the first person to hold all three as noted by Gerda. This would make a simpler and more interesting hook. Is Gerda going to develop an Alt based on that? Philafrenzy (talk) 09:37, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
Yes, wrong, one was Industry, two were Research, one (the early one) was another, and I don't know why the source says three when it was four, so wanted to play it safe. Industry (real production) is in a way worth mentioning as special. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:02, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Gerda, this has been sitting here for a month. What hook do you want to go with? Yoninah (talk) 19:42, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  • I've expanded "RS" in ALT2 to "Royal Society"; writing it out is far clearer, and only adds eleven characters. Or it could be just "Society" without the "Royal", which is clear in context and only adds five characters (new total: 172). BlueMoonset (talk) 19:51, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
I'd go with the original, but ALT2 is acceptable, while ALT3 was not. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  • The original reads like a resume entry, whereas ALT2 has some hookiness to it. I've struck the other hooks. ALT2 hook ref verified and cited inline. Rest of review per Philafrenzy. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:27, 2 December 2017 (UTC)