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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 08:00, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

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Memorial to Victims of Violence in Mexico

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  • ... that the Memorial to Victims of Violence in Mexico was inspired by the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe and the Berlin Wall? Source: "Los arquitectos se dieron a la tarea de revisar diferentes proyectos con la misma temática a través del mundo, pero fue en Berlín, en el 'Monumento al Holocausto', diseñado por el arquitecto estadounidense Peter Eisenman, y en los resquicios grafiteados del Muro de Berlín, donde encontraron su idea principal y reforzaron la idea de utilizar muros." ["The architects set themselves the task of reviewing different projects with the same theme throughout the world, but it was in Berlin, in the 'Holocaust Memorial', designed by the American architect Peter Eisenman, and in the graffitied chinks of the Berlin Wall, where they found their main idea and reinforced the idea of using walls."] (Expansión)
    • ALT1: ... that a Pritzker Architecture Prize juror said that the Memorial to Victims of Violence in Mexico connects with the community and mimetics with nature holistically? Source: "Como describe Kristin Feireiss, curadora de arquitectura y jurado del Premio Pritzker, el Memorial a las Víctimas de la Violencia en México adopta un enfoque holístico que expresa un mensaje humanitario, fuerte presencia física, sensibilidad artística extraordinaria y diálogo poético con el universo y la naturaleza. Explica que a partir del concepto y diseño del memorial, una instalación de setenta enormes muros de acero y espejos de agua integrados hábilmente al paisaje, se han creado formas y espacios que interactúan con el paisaje urbano, conectándose también con la comunidad." [As described by Kristin Feireiss, architectural curator and Pritzker Prize juror, the Memorial to the Victims of Violence in Mexico takes a holistic approach that expresses a humanitarian message, strong physical presence, extraordinary artistic sensibility, and poetic dialogue with the universe and nature. She explains that from the concept and design of the memorial, an installation of seventy enormous steel walls and water mirrors skillfully integrated into the landscape, forms and spaces have been created that interact with the urban landscape, connecting also with the community."] (Arquitectura Panamericana)
    • ALT2: ... that phrases of Cicero, Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr, related to memory and love, are engraved on the Memorial to Victims of Violence in Mexico? Source: "...approximately 40 different quotes related to violence, memory, love, absence, and pain—from figures such as Cicero, Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., and Mexican novelist Carlos Fuentes—are carved out of the panels and illuminated by LED strips housed within light boxes in the steel walls." (Architectural Record)
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Deli Mike

Created by Tbhotch (talk). Self-nominated at 03:39, 10 January 2022 (UTC).


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Thank you for a thoughtful and careful article about a sensitive subject. Some issues with the hooks.

  • ALT0 is fine, and it is repeated with citation close by, although it is less moving than the other two.
  • ALT1 contains an obfuscatory usage of "mimetics". Could we say, "mimics nature holistically"? Even so, that is not hooky, because mimicking nature holistically requires specific explanation, which in the case of a hook we cannot do. I would remove that bit, and just say "connects with the community".
  • I like ALT2 best, because that is what the memorial is really all about - messages and phrases of love - but the source is broken and out of date, and needs to be replaced.

So at the moment, only ALT0 is satisfactory rules-wise, although it is maybe not loving enough for such a moving subject. If we can resolve the issues with ALTs 2 and 3, then this nomination should be good to go. Storye book (talk) 20:56, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Storye book, thank you for the review and the copy-edit. For me, the link for ALT2 is working ([1]). If it doesn't work, it is available at Issuu. Because you think that that one is the most interesting option, we can stick with it. (CC) Tbhotch™ 06:59, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Thank you, Tbhotch. I have added the alterntive Issuu link to the original citation, so now we have both.
  • Good to go, with ALT2. Storye book (talk) 09:18, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
ALT2 to T:DYK/P7
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