Talk:Yavuz Sultan Selim Bridge

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Cable-stayed or suspension bridge?[edit]

As I've seen from the introduction video, the bridge looks like a cable-stayed type, not suspension. -- Iñfẽstør  T• C• U 20:00, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


First point: Designers are Jean-François Klein & Michel Virlogeux. Second point: Its an hybrid cable stayed and suspended bridge or high rigidity (HR)bridge, like Brooklyn bridge. Sources: Myself, design team of BB3 T-engineering Geneva. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.70.12.52 (talk) 08:39, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Symphony bridge[edit]

This bridge would be a symphony bridge. Very few bridges of this type exist, the Brooklyn Bridge comes closest. It's also notable that the bridge deck is one of the widest in the world at 58.40 meters (the Port Mann Bridge in Vancouver has a deck of 65 m in width) Chriszwolle (talk) 14:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of cut trees[edit]

Dear User:Mavigogun, Why would you add unproven claims when the source makes no mention of it? The reference article does not mention trees being cut and the Italian company Astaldi has denied the claims for any changes in route or plans. That is why I had removed the line.Yozer1 (talk) 16:58, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Controversial bridge[edit]

Why does the article have to mention the construction being controversial in the very first sentence? There were differences of opinions about almost all of the bridges ever built, but does it make every singe one of them "controversial"? All the issues (including removal of trees) and notable opinions can be discussed in the following sections. --Kimse (talk) 15:15, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo, these are not only "differences of opinions", but opposite opinions, that is controversies (please check an English dictionary about the meaning of the word) and not only about the construction, but the project, the naming, and so on. Two third of the article deal with all these controversial issues, and the lead summarizes the article. That`s why I think that this adjective should stay in the lead, as is the case for the Waldschlösschen Bridge in Dresden, both in the English and in the German wiki. Alex2006 (talk) 17:02, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You'd better write a "controversy" subsection or give at least couple of controversy citations then. -- Infestor  T•C 17:17, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Alessandro57. I believe it's not fair to compare this bridge with Waldschlösschen Bridge as the latter was opposed not only by members of the government, but also by UNESCO, and court cases were brought against the construction. UNESCO eventually de-listed the location as World Heritage Site, making it only the second such a site in the world ever to be deleted from their list. So, even though the third bridge in Istanbul has critics, it also has supporters. The opposition, either local or international, is not comparable to the German bridge. --Kimse (talk) 15:42, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"So, even though the third bridge in Istanbul has critics, it also has supporters." Exactly the definition of controversy: if there were only supporters or only detractors, there would be no conflict. Rather than contest what is demonstrable, it would actually be productive just to cite supporting articles. Comparisons to some other occurrence is irrelevant.Mavigogun (talk) 11:21, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A more zoomed in map[edit]

Can we have a more zoomed in map that shows the location of the bridge on the Bosporus alongside the other two? -- Infestor  T•C 09:14, 15 April 2014 (UTC) [reply]

Removal of contradictory parts[edit]

I suggest removing the contradictory paragraph in the article:

"Work was halted in July 2013 when it became evident that the site was mislocated- but only after the removal of thousands of trees. The action, announced in paperwork filed for a plan change written by State Highways Directorate Director-General Mehmet Cahit Turhan on June 11, 2013, reads "it is appropriate to cancel the current construction plan due to the necessity of making a revision, which resulted from changes of the route project". Both the ministry and the construction company have denied any change to construction site location.[13]" -Yozer1 (talk) 15:28, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

the magazine "e-mosty" removed as the external source by Malcous[edit]

Dear Colleagues

We are a reviewed, interactive, international, English-Czech magazine about bridge engineering "e-mosty", www.e-mosty.cz ("e-bridges").

In our June issue we brought a very complex article written by me, in cooperation with Dr. Klein, with Technical and Construction Directors from Astaldi and reviewed by Prof. Brancaleoni from the University of Rome. The article is accompanied with drawings, rich photo gallery and videos, having about 25 pages. I think that it is the most complex article about the bridge that is now available.

We are open access and non-commercial magazine.

However, after I put a link to our magazine onto this page in WIKI, user "malcous" removed it with a very unpleasant comment. After subsequent discussion he proposed that I put the talk here.

Please review it. I suggest the link is put back as either the source, or the link and stays there.

The article is here:

http://e-mosty.cz/3rd-bosphorus-bridge-michel-virlogeux-izmit-bay-bridge/

You can have a look at Czech Wikipedia, to compare, where I editted the article without any problem, including the source:

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_Sult%C3%A1na_Selima_I.

M. Sobotková

Chief Editor / e-mosty

PS: Some references - eg. Number 23 - are not relevant and they do not work

E-mosty (talk) 19:23, 13 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not the longest combined motorway/railway bridge[edit]

The bridge is not the longest combined motorway/railway bridge in the world. The Öresund Bridge between Malmö in Sweden and Copenhagen in Denmark is much longer, 7,845 m according to the Wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phu9 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is also not "the world’s broadest suspension bridge at 58.4 meters (192 feet) wide". The Eastern span replacement of the San Francisco–Oakland Bay Bridge is 78.74m (258.33 ft) wide, and the Port Mann Bridge between Coquitlam and Surrey, British Columbia is 65 metres (213 ft) wide. Editing the article to remove this part about the width. Greg Salter (talk) 00:12, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Inadequate pictures[edit]

All the photos we have on the page are from pre-completion stage of the bridge. Since the bridge is now officially inaugurated, surely we could come up with a photo of the completed bridge instead. werldwayd (talk) 20:43, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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