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Doesn't look like this guy passes the professor test. Every tenured professor has written a couple of scholarly books and maybe edits a scholarly journal. Not enough, unless I'm missing something. Nicely done article, but should probably be deleted. Herostratus 03:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

His book on the New Age movement is one of the first if not the first non-polemical academic reviews of the subject (i.e. it is written neither from a sceptical nor a religionist perspective, and presents an analysis of the movement on the basis of its important texts). That alone makes him notable (plus the fact that book has a decent print run, being printed by SUNY Press)

In addition he has co-written and edited a number of books and journals (full details on his hime page). Included in the Wikipedia Notability Criteria is:

Published authors, editors, and photographers who have written books with an audience of 5,000 or more or in periodicals with a circulation of 5,000 or more

Since Hanegraaff is already a published author (one book), co-author (several books), and/or editor (a number of books, plus a number of journals), that surely makes him notable.

M Alan Kazlev 08:44, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, fair enough. Thanks for clearing that up. I'll remove the ((importance)) that then. Herostratus 11:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Herostratus :-) M Alan Kazlev 11:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hanegraaff[edit]

Any known realtionship between the two Hanegraaffs? --Pjacobi 22:28, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

none that i know of! M Alan Kazlev 20:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

>They are family, brothers even, I think

No, Hank's father is a brother of Wouter's father.

>Aha, thanks, i couldn't remember correctly.

Copyright violation, unsourced or badly sourced material in a BLP article[edit]

Unsourced material in BLP articles is not allowed and should be removed. Also material relationg to his publications must be sourced to reliable sources, if reliable sources are not found then the material may be in addition against UNDUE and Original research — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riley0O0O0O (talk • contribs) 03:00, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So, the University of Amsterdam is not a reliable source? Wholeheartedly disagree. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:11, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I also know that Amsterdam is more liberal than other places, but this is wikipedia not Amsterdam. The text was non-peer reviewed and copyright violation. Don't you think that better sources should be used and not copyright violation? I cannot imagine that Wikipedia is as liberal as Amsterdam

@Riley0O0O0O: could you please give the exact source from which this would be a copy-violation, and explain, with quotes, how this ia a copy-violation? Pinging User:Diannaa: do you see a copy-vio here? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 18:26, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see copies of this anywhere else online (other than a couple of Wikipedia mirrors). We've had some of the material for a very long time, which means copyvio would be very difficult to prove at this point. It's all unsourced though — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:36, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See here https://web.archive.org/web/20171222095847/http://www.uva.nl/profiel/h/a/w.j.hanegraaff/w.j.hanegraaff.html Many sentences are copied from there. Other problem is that it is non-peer reviewed (not good source).

For example, compare this
It tells "the neglected story of how intellectuals since the Renaissance have tried to come to terms with a cluster of 'pagan' ideas from late antiquity that challenged the foundations of biblical religion and Greek rationality". "Expelled from the academy on the basis of Protestant and Enlightenment politics", Hanegraaff argues that "these traditions have come to be perceived as the Other by which academics define their identity to the present day".
with this
Wouter J. Hanegraaff tells the neglected story of how intellectuals since the Renaissance have tried to come to terms with a cluster of "pagan" ideas from late antiquity that challenged the foundations of biblical religion and Greek rationality. Expelled from the academy on the basis of Protestant and Enlightenment polemics, these traditions have come to be perceived as the Other by which academics define their identity to the present day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riley0O0O0O (talk • contribs) 11:31, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]