Talk:WindSeeker/GA2

GA Reassessment

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I will be fixing up the statements that have no reference(s) in the next few days.--Dom497 (talk) 00:18, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

This needs input from an uninvolved editor. I've asked Wizardman (talk · contribs) to give it a review. jcgoble3 (talk) 00:33, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I'll give this a read-through most likely tomorrow. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 02:09, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Alright, here's the issues I found:

• "The Mondial rides at [Ontario]]'s" forgot a bracket there.
• "Canada's Wonderland, Ohio's Cedar Point and Kings Island, but late in the season at California's Knott's Berry Farmwere opened for the 2011 season while Carowinds will open their model in 2012." Confusing as worded. I get what you're trying to say, that Knott's Berry Farm's WindSeeker opened later. Will this be normal or were they just late this year? If the latter just combine all four noting that they started in 2011. Also add a space between farm and were.
• "All the WindSeeker's costed $5,000,000 each except for the Carowinds Model which coasted 6,500,000" cost instead of coasted, no apostrophe in Windseeker's, and comma after each.
• "There are strips of LED lights mounted on the arms that support the swings and colored floodlights which light up all of WindSeeker's tower from above" comma after floodlights, and reword to "which lights up Windseeker's tower..." to make cleaner.

These are just the problems in the lead, so I have a lot of combing through to do and there will be a lot of work on your end. Since it's already tagged as a GA, I'll just concentrate on pointing out the problems. Here's a couple more on top of that:

• "Another difference is that the tower at Knott's Berry Farm will not light up during the night as no LED lights at the top of the tower where placed." de-italicize not, and this contradicts the part in the lead that all four have lights. Which is right?
• You can't use YouTube as a source; get rid of those and replace where necessary.

Note here when these are fixed and I'll continue my review. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 15:31, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Dom and I have fixed all except the contradiction about Knott's and the YouTube sourcing, which may take a little digging. jcgoble3 (talk) 15:44, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Ya, in my opinion, just because of what the youtube sources cover, i think it will be hard to find actual written statements on the internet to replace the youtube sources.--Dom497 (talk) 15:47, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I've clarified the Knott's lighting. All that should be left from this first batch of issues is the YouTube stuff. jcgoble3 (talk) 15:59, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I undid your edit as the reference had nothing to do with the actual statements you wanted to reference.--Dom497 (talk) 16:11, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Because I copied the wrong citation by mistake. Should be fixed for real now. jcgoble3 (talk) 16:15, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I deleted one youtube reference as it was not really needed and could be accessed through the wonderland Windseeker link.--Dom497 (talk) 16:18, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I was able to delete and replace all the youtube references on the article.--Dom497 (talk) 19:44, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Here are some more issues I found in the History section after reading through the rest:

• "Throughout August 2011, Carowinds released 6 different QR codes hidden around the parks website. Each code could be scanned by a phone and after scanned, would lead the user to a website which revealed 1 of the 6 clues to what the 2012 attraction would be." Don't you mean throughout August 2010 and the 2011 attraction? If it's talking about something unrelated in the future than it shouldn't be in this article.
• "Throughout August 2011, Carowinds released 6 different QR codes hidden around the parks website. Each code could be scanned by a phone and after scanned, would lead the user to a website which revealed 1 of the 6 clues to what the 2012 attraction would be. Once the user found all 6 clues and put them together, the picture would read "Voiceless it cries, wingless flutters, toothless bites, mouthless mutters, fun soars to new heights... August 24".[21] On August 24, 2011 at 11am EST, the official announcement was made that Carowinds would receive the fifth WindSeeker in the Cedar Fair chain.[2]" A lot of questions here. First, is this just noting something for Carowinds or did this involve all five parks? Second, it should be "park's website". Third, spell out one of the six clues rather than the numbers., same for next sentence. Lastly, presuming this is just for the Carowinds park, make it clearer and condense it, since it feels like recentism to have all this thrown in.
• In that paragraph, I don't think the times are necessary (11am, 2 pm). Remove them.
• "At the time, all four WindSeekers were due to open sometime in spring 2011.[12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20]" Cite overkill; shouldn't only four at most be needed for that sentence?
• "Construction for the WindSeekers at Canada's Wonderland, Cedar Point and Kings Island began around late October and early November" Add 2010 after November just to make it clearer.
• "To install the ride Canada's Wonderland's" comma after ride.
• "However, after two-month delay it was announced on January 7, 2011, that their WindSeeker would not replace the Sky Cabin" A bit odd as worded. Change to "After a two-month delay...7, 2011 that their WindSeeker..."
• "From May 24, 2011 to about mid-June 2011, the ride was intermittently operating due to a variety of problems which have now been mostly resolved." Makes it sound like a current statement added in back in June. If it's now running smoothly then modify it to put the problems in past tense; if there's still problems then modify it for that.
• "last to officially open to the public (on August 18, 2011)" already noted several times, so text in parentheses not really needed. If you really want to keep it at least remove the parentheses.
• "and does not light up like the other WindSeeker's" no apostrophe on Windseekers
• "On 24 August 2011, Carowinds officially announced that they would be opening a WindSeeker by Spring 2012." This is already noted earlier in the section, so only needs to be in there once.

The myriad of issues I'm seeing, combined with the stability issues (the new one being announced seems to have modified some text) give me great pause. We're making progress, but I can't guarantee it staying a GA unless I start finding fewer problems the further I get into it. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 02:56, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Um, Carowinds just annonced that they are getting a windseeker for the 2012 season... and i removed the times.--Dom497 (talk) 03:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

I cant see reducing the amount of info about the Carowinds clues as then the rest of the paragraph wouldn't make sense... unless you want to take out what the clues said.--Dom497 (talk) 13:41, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

The clues don't seem overly useful to me, but if you want to keep them then I won't fight it. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear}

Here's wave three of comments:

• "WindSeeker could have been injured as all of the swings" remove italics from all.
• "On June 14, 2011, some riders on Cedar Point's WindSeeker could have been injured as all of the swings" If there were no reported injuries, then that's speculation unless the source specifically says that: reword to "On June 14, 2011 on Cedar Point's WindSeeker, the swings.." also add comma after directions.
• "Click on the picture to see the full size of the image." this isn't needed in the captions, as it's a given for the site.
• "The 301-foot (92 m)-tall center tower is made up of 8 parts" and "On the top of the 8th tower piece"; spell out eight.
• I don't believe break-down is hyphenated. Fix those few instances.
• "in-case" no hyphen
• "the swings speed instantly begins to slow down." swing's
• "rather than the white, blue, and green colours of the towers," colors; WindSeeker's an American ride (notwithstanding the one in Canada), so make use American English is used throughout.
• "Brian Krosnick pointed out that due to the location of the ride" This can just say Krosnick since the full name was noted earlier.
• "The full review can be seen here.[50]" This can be removed, people can just click the ref to get to it. Same for the other one.

Everything should be good after these comments are addressed, and I'll finally be able to consider this GA-worthy once they're fixed. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 17:30, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Finished!!!--Dom497 (talk) 17:55, 29 August 2011 (UTC)