Talk:William R. Looney III

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Dubious[edit]

Case in point- [1] A secondary sourced claim with no original/unreferenced claim in a Pilger book is far from safe to use. Nimmo 00:50, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Point taken. Can you then provide evidence of an occasion when John Pilger has been proven to misquote someone? Alfonsotoastrack 18:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not neccesary that he has misquoted someone. But where we have a polemicist with a viewpoint to confirm, the fact that he seems to be drawing on internet quotes of a primary source which does not in fact exist is troubling, to say the least. Nimmo 02:43, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well in the book he quotes the Washington post (August 30, 1999). I'm not convinced that this does not exist in the Washington Post Archives, as they charge a fee for viewing articles more than 60 days old, so I have been unable to establish whether this is legitimate or not. I assume you have paid the fee and confirmed this for yourself. I would also be sincerely grateful if you could provide examples of the "Numerous fabrications" that you claim pilger has been involved in. Thanks (Alfonsotoastrack 13:22, 27 September 2007 (UTC))[reply]

I dont see anybody claiming anywhere "numerous fabrications." Just an incorrect quote. When one plugs the quote into google, one receives just a few non-reputable sites all citing each other. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22If+they+turn+on+the+radars+we%27re+going+to+blow+up+their+goddamn+SAMs+(surface-to-air+missiles).+They+know+we+own+their+country.+We+own+their+airspace...+We+dictate+the+way+they+live+and+talk.+And+that%27s+what%27s+great+about+America+right+now.+It%27s+a+good+thing%2C+especially+when+there%27s+a+lot+of+oil+out+there+we+need.%22+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a for ref of the search i used. Dogabutila (talk) 20:07, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i also took a look around http://www.highbeam.com/The+Washington+Post/publications.aspx?date=19990830 for anything and i couldnt find the quote or interview anywhere. Granted, it isnt actually the post itself, but it has all the articles. Additionally with further research, i found that the quote cites him as a brig general, when in reality he would have been a major general at that time. Unless somebody can come up with the actual scan of the quote i'll be taking it down. Dogabutila (talk) 20:17, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

4 months - no cite and no answer. I'm going to take this quote down and if anybody can come up with a reputable citation for it, then they can add it back in. It really seems to be to be fabricated or misattributed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dogabutila (talk • contribs) 10:27, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]