Talk:Weezer (Teal Album)

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January 2019 and March 2019 albums --> Teal and Black albums[edit]

I know that the user who wrote the title for this album and changed the title of the article for the Black album only adjusted the titles to the previous self-titled Weezer albums, i.e. "Weezer (1994 album)", "Weezer (2001 album)" etc. But now that we have two self-titled Weezer records released in 2019, I think it's time to bite the bullet and change the naming format for these records. I think it makes more sense to name the articles "Weezer (Blue album)", "Weezer (Teal album)" etc. That is also how they're represented on streaming sites. Including the months in the titles is just too ugly-looking.--Invader Phantom (talk) 14:43, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please get rid of the month as disambiguator. Even Weezer (cover album) would be better. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 17:09, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah hard to object to this really, especially since the album is called Weezer (Teal Album) on most streaming services. Should there be an RM or is this uncontroversial?Nohomersryan (talk) 18:57, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

An RM may be helpful. Should it be "teal album" as a disambiguator or "Teal Album" as an alternate title? Then, should it be applied to other Weezer albums or leave those alone since this is a unique (for now) situation. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 19:41, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I'll initiate one, I lean "Teal Album" caps because that's what most RSes call it, something like Weezer (Teal Album). Nohomersryan (talk) 19:44, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 24 January 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Snow move. Clear consensus to move. (non-admin closure) © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 23:08, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

– With Weezer deciding to be annoying and releasing 2 self-titled albums in a year, it's time to re-look at the disambiguators for these pages. Dates were fine, but now that there are two Weezer (2019 album)s, that can't really fly, unless you do something tortured like the current pages. It seems best to use the colloquial names now, and be consistent across each page. Plus, it's more recognizable, and includes WP:COMMONNAME, while also acknowledging that the albums are all called "Weezer". Most sources (including streaming sites) when telling the albums apart go with Weezer (Teal Album), too, so it's basically on the verge of being the official name. Nohomersryan (talk) 19:50, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support – One of the main goals of WP:DAB is to assist readers in finding the information they're looking for . From that guideline, disambiguation is at least partially for: "Ensuring that a reader who searches for a topic using a particular term can get to the information on that topic quickly and easily, whichever of the possible topics it might be." I believe readers are more familiar with the album colors than their release years, which makes it a better candidate for disambiguation in the article's titles. However, I acknowledge this to be more of an exception to the rule than something that should be done for all artists with multiple self-titled albums. Also, for the record, I disagree with nom that Weezer is annoying for doing this. I think it's fun. Fezmar9 (talk) 20:38, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, it is worth noting I feel like this qualifies more as an extreme circumstance than new consensus for these kinds of dabs. Nohomersryan (talk) 20:42, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support for reasons listed above by Fezmar9. Also in this case "Weezer (Teal album)" is the official name at retailers and streaming services like Amazon[1] and Spotify[2], so I wouldn't even view it as self-titled in a narrow sense. Hunter contributor (talk) 21:40, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support all per WP:UCN, and the like. All reliable sources use the color names for all of these, we should follow suit. --Jayron 32 21:55, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support all - Nohomersryan's points are good, and "Weezer ([Color] Album)" seems like the best way to fix. ~ JoshDuffMan (talk) 22:04, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support all – Especially after this new Teal Album, it seems more justified. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 22:47, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support all. Most readers would know the albums for their colours not their years, because that's the most common thing used to describe them (and with the Black and Teal Albums, the colours are at least official titles—not sure on the older ones). Ss112 02:01, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support all - This is consistently how these albums are disambiguated outside Wikipedia, including in official Weezer media. — TORTOISE WRATH 03:16, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Makes it easier for the reader. As years go by, it becomes more difficult to recall what year X album was released? Was in 2008? Or 2009? Don't know, but I know it had a red cover! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 08:15, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Good call. I guess this is less controversial than I thought it might be. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 16:43, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support all per nom. ONR (talk) 21:40, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Date[edit]

The album's page says that it was released on 24 January 2019. However, in California, where the band is from, it was released on 23 January 2019. Should the date be changed? 2601:601:1001:E120:3C54:E80C:D933:197A (talk) 04:26, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, January 23 is the accurate day. Nohomersryan (talk) 04:50, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is, just because they're from California doesn't mean it's treated as the 23rd. All streaming sites, and even band posts appear as the 24th. Even some websites treat it as the 24th https://www.nme.com/reviews/album/weezer-the-teal-album-review https://www.vulture.com/2019/01/weezer-releases-the-teal-album.html Timeless Days (talk) 22:19, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- You are right, despite the album being available in the 23rd it is listed as the 24th everywhere. I suppose this makes it the correct date, contrary to what I said above.Nohomersryan (talk) 23:10, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As a compilation album[edit]

What makes Weezer (Teal Album) a studio album and not a compilation album? If it is not a collection of original songs and are just covers, doesn't it make it a compilation album? 24.127.236.115 (talk) 22:43, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]