Talk:WSR-57

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One of the sources is the map at: http://books.nap.edu/books/NI000004/html/9.html

It doesn't differentiate between WSR-57 and WSR-74S radars on that map; I used other sources to find, say, the Memphis TN situation. Below are radar sites that could have had a '57 or a '74S (or both):

Alliance, NE Binghamton, NY Bristol, TN Cape Hatteras, NC Charleston, WV Chatham, MA Huron, SD Jackson, KY Longview, TX Monett, MO Nashville, TN Pensacola, FL Victoria, TX Volens, VA Waycross, GA West Palm Beach, FL

I couldn't tell from the map that Fargo, ND was for sure *not* a WSR-74C, so it might have had any of the three.

One source indicated Norman, OK (NSSL) had its own WSR-57, but I'm not sure if it's just referring to one at Oklahoma City about 20 miles to the north, or not.

A source also said Hackensack, MN had a '57, but other sources point to several other sites in MN that aren't Hackensack, so I don't know its status.

Chicago may have had a '57 early on (according to http://www.cig.ensmp.fr/~iahs/redbooks/a065/065028.pdf) but I don't see any other references to it.

Evansville, IN may have had a '57 (same source) before it got a '74C.

Help sorting these out would be appreciated. :-) Unfortunately different sources seem to count the "total" numbers differently, i.e. 68 or 69 of the WSR-74C radars and varying totals for the whole pre-NEXRAD network. Good luck!

Kd5npf 02:42, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Evansville, NSSL and others[edit]

I visited the old NWS WSO at Evansville, IN (EVV) twice in the early/mid 1990's -- once before the radar was decommissioned/office closed (while the WSO still had warning responsibility) and again a year or so after closure. The radar unit there was a definitely a WSR-57 (vs. a WSR-74C/S). Lots of vacuum tubes.

Also, NSSL in Norman, OK did have it's own WSR-57 back in the day (in addition to the operational NWS WSR-57 radar at WSFO Oklahoma City, OK -- at the OKC airport). The NSSL unit was taken down (in the 80's, I believe) and given to a citizen/public safety group in Woodward, Oklahoma as a non-NWS network radar. I work with the gentleman who was instrumental in that move and operated the radar in Woodward. That radar has long since been scrapped.

I'm nearly certain of the following --

WSR-57 unit(s):
Alliance, NE (AIA)
Binghamton, NY (BGM)
Bristol, TN (TRI)
Cape Hatteras, NC (HAT)
Chattam, MA (CHH)
Huron, SD (HON)
Longview, TX (GGG)
Monett, MO (UMN)
Nashville, TN (BNA)
Pensacola, FL (PNS/NPA)
Volens, VA (VQN)
Waycross, GA (AYS)
Fargo, ND (FAR)

WSR-74C unit(s):
West Palm Beach, FL (PBI)

WSR-74x unit(s): ("C" or "S" -- unsure which -- but not WSR-57)
Jackson, KY (JKL) -- was either a WSR-74C or WSR-74S (I've seen it listed both ways in NWS docs)
Charleston, WV (CRW)

Victoria, TX (VCT) is a strange one. I've seen NWS documentation listing this as a "WSR100-S" unit.

I can dig up some references if you like? A lot of my knowledge has been picked up over time as a result of my own obsession with this stuff. ;)

--129.15.195.145 19:57, 20 July 2006 (UTC) David[reply]

NWS documentation[edit]

I dug-up some old NWS modernization updates via the "wayback machine" that provides more information on the locations/models of the old radar network (the relevant info in the "Decommissioned Radars" and "Radar Decommissioning Status" sections):

1. http://web.archive.org/web/19970607085612/www.nws.noaa.gov/modup/index.htm
2. http://web.archive.org/web/19970725055611/www.nws.noaa.gov/im/consintr.htm
3. http://web.archive.org/web/20020625175432/205.156.54.206/im/consintr.htm

This should clear-up questions of which type of radar (WSR-57, WSR-74C, WSR-74S, other ... WSR100-S at Victoria, TX) was where.

--129.15.195.145 23:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC) David[reply]

Interesting stormtrack discussions[edit]

Here are a few interesting forum posts from Stormtrack that talk about the old radars:

http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/lofiversion/index.php?t9433.html
http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=10344&hl=radar
http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=9498&hl=

There is some really good stuff in these -- especially the second post which has some links to pictures of old NWS radomes, maps, etc.

--129.15.195.145 23:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC) David[reply]

September update[edit]

I've gone through all those sources and I think I've pinned down almost everything.

The two WSR-74x's were among several local area (not network) radars that happened to be -74S instead of the usual -74C. Victoria's WSR100-S, a local radar decommissioned on March 12, 1997, "was manufactured by EEC in the early 70s (before the 74 series)" according to the Stormtrack forums - so it was sort of a prototype -74. I think the list starting with Alliance, NE was pretty much all -74S because that's how they were decommissioned. I still don't know what happened to the Hackensack, MN site, and I'm still looking for totals (matched up to some date, otherwise it's not as useful).

Kd5npf 05:13, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

US perpective ?[edit]

There is a banner saying this article is too much US centered. Since this is an american radar, used only in the US, I fail to see the point and I'm not a US citizen ?

Pierre cb (talk) 19:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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WSR-57 locations[edit]

Got a few WSR-57 & 74 locations, should some of you want to pinpoint them....

Neenah, WI (EEW): 3009 W. Fairview Road Centreville, AL (CKL): AL-25, Centreville, AL Volens, VA (VQN/7VM): 15194 L.P. Bailey Memorial Highway, Nathalie, VA

Also, does anybody have any proof that the 57 at Bristol (TRI) was atop Holston Mountain? Would anybody happen to have pictures of it? Tennesseefluxedo (talk) 16:22, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]