Talk:Vologases IV

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Iazyges (talk · contribs) 18:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will start soon. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 18:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion[edit]

Dąbrowa, Edward (2010), Gregoratti, Leonardo (2013), and Olbrycht, Marek Jan (1997) all need their journal names added to their citations in sources. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 21:45, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@HistoryofIran: That is all my suggestions, once these journal names are added I can pass the article. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 14:14, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:06, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Prose Suggestions[edit]

Please note that almost all of these are suggestions, and can be implemented or ignored at your discretion. Any changes I deem necessary for the article to pass GA standards I will bold.

Lede[edit]

Lede needs to be expanded with details on how he took over the throne from Vologases III, a rival king, as does body.
Vologases IV spent the early years of his reign successfully re-incorporating the Kingdom of Characene into Parthian suzerainty. suggest Vologases spent the early years of his reign re-asserting Parthian control over the Kingdom of Characene.

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:31, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

From 161 to 166, he waged war against the Roman Empire; initially successful, he conquered Armenia and Syria. However, his forces were eventually pushed back by the Romans, who briefly occupied the Parthian capitals of Seleucia and Ctesiphon. suggest From 161 to 166, he waged war against the Roman Empire; although initially successful, conquering Armenia and Syria, he was eventually pushed back, briefly losing control of the Parthian capitals of Seleucia and Ctesiphon to the Romans.

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:31, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Romans were forced to withdraw in 166, due to suffering heavy losses by a plague that had erupted in Seleucia. suggest the Romans suffered heavy losses from a plague erupting from Seleucia in 166, forcing them to withdraw.

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:31, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The war soon ended afterward, with Vologases having lost a vast part of northern Mesopotamia to the Romans suggest The war ended soon afterward, with Vologases losing most of northern Mesopotamia to the Romans.

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:31, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

The etymology of the name is unclear. A suggestion has been made that the name could mean "strength". Must say by who says this. It seems to be Ferdinand Justi in his Namenbuch, pp. 344f; this section also says that he believes "strength" is only the meaning of the first element of the name, not the whole name; you could say The etymology of the name is unclear, although Ferdinand Justi proposes that Walagaš, the first form of the name, is a compound of words "strength" (varəda), and "handsome" (gaš or geš in Modern Persian).

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:31, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Conquest of Characene[edit]

The body does not contain information about Mithradates V rising up against Vologases III, nor how Vologases IV succeded Vologases III, a critical part of his life. Placing article on hold until this is done.

Unfortunately this is not mentioned anywhere as far I as know. --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:30, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is no information about how he came to power? Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 06:32, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, it just says that he succeeded Vologases III in 147. Considering Vologases III ruled for quite some time, I assume he died due to old age and Vologases IV took the throne afterwards. Parthian history is very obscure unfortunately. --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alrighty; as long as that much can be said and cited it'll pass coverage. Unfortunate we don't know more. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 14:05, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Orabazes II, most likely a relative of Vologases, was made the new king of Characene. suggest moving this up into the body, perhaps after which had been independent since the expedition of the Roman emperor Trajan in 116.

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:55, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

War with the Romans[edit]

marking the first (and last) time in a Roman-Parthian conflict with the Parthians being the aggressors. suggest marking the only time in a Roman-Parthian conflict where the Parthians declared war.

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ma'nu VIII, the legitimate king, was forced to flee to the Romans suggest Ma'nu VIII, the legitimate king, was forced to flee to the Roman Empire.

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In 164, the Parthian forces were pushed out of Syria, suggest The Parthian forces were pushed out of Syria, in 164,

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In 165, the Romans laid siege to Edessa suggest The Romans laid siege to Edessa in 165

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

However, the Romans were forced to withdraw in 166, due to suffering heavy losses by a plague that had erupted in Seleucia. suggest Howver, the Romans suffered heavy losses from a plague erupting from Seleucia in 166, forcing them to withdraw.

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The war soon ended afterward, with Vologases having lost a vast part of northern Mesopotamia to the Romans suggest The war ended soon afterward, with Vologases losing most of northern Mesopotamia to the Romans.

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In the event, Vologases' son Vologases II, won the succession, suggest However, Vologases' son, Vologases II, succeeded him

Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

characters not showing up[edit]

Native name is just untranslatable squares for Walagaš - can someone address? Firefox 87, with the full complement of fonts installed for other languages from Apple for Mac OS 10.14 - these probably should be rendered as a file in jpg or svg format, ancient Parthian(?) not being on many English computers. Thanks for addressing.50.111.51.247 (talk) 09:56, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]