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Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2024[edit]

Please add the following, as the penultimate sentence in the sub-section entitled "Death and funeral: 1923–1924".

In November 2018, Sergey Malinkovich, the central committee secretary of the Communists of Russia political party, called for the criminal prosecution of Vladimir Petrov, a lawmaker in the Leningrad region, for insulting religious believers by calling for Lenin’s preserved body to be buried.[1][2] He said Petrov's proposal had violated the Criminal Code of Russia by insulting religious feelings and inciting hatred, and that he planned to "keep hounding" Petrov for his remarks.[1][2] 2603:7000:2101:AA00:90C5:84C7:E1DA:1A9 (talk) 00:12, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: This information would be out of scope on this article. I would put it on Lenin's Mausoleum#Contemporary instead (not semi-protected). — FenrisAureus (she/they) (talk) 02:15, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b "Communists' Religious Feelings Were Violated by Proposal to Replace Lenin's Body, Party Official Says". The Moscow Times. November 27, 2018.
  2. ^ a b Brendan Cole (November 28, 2018). "Communists' Religious Feelings Hurt by Lenin Burial Bid". Newsweek.

Syphilis[edit]

why is not mentioned here, that he probably got infected with Syphilis? At younger age during his european stays? See Valerij Novoselovs documentary. Russia refused to disclose official medical records about Lenin till 2024, but all ancillary evidence points to this diagnose. In other languages Wiki it is mentioned. 213.81.198.147 (talk) 12:28, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The number of delegates at the First Congress of the Comintern[edit]

The current version of this article states that there were 34 delegates at the First Congress of the Comintern. However, having looked through different sources, i found that there are discrepancies regarding the number of people attended the meeting. For example:

  • Shub (1966, p.390) states that there were "thirty-five delegates and fifteen guests."
  • Service (2000, p.386) states that there were "thirty-four delegates."
  • Furthermore, The Comintern by McDermott & Agnew (1996, p.12), not cited in this article, states that "Only nine of the fifty-one cold guests arrived from abroad [to attend the meeting]."

That being said, could someone here ascertain the exact number and correct the statement accordingly? - Billcipher123 (talk) 18:04, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An easy solution would be for the article to omit mentioning an exact number of delegates, since it isn't really required. That being said, one book specifically about the First Congress gives 34 delegates with a "decisive vote" and 18 with a "consultative vote," making for 52 in total (Riddell, Founding of the Communist International: Proceedings and Documents of the First Congress, p. 67.) Another book dealing specifically about the first and second congresses likewise states that 52 individuals "participated" in the first (Hulse, The Forming of the Communist International, p. 17.) --Ismail (talk) 15:08, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, as you said, i think omitting this bit of info makes the most sense since this articles doesn't have to go into that level of detail anyway. Billcipher123 (talk) 12:09, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2024[edit]

Replace {{family name hatnote}}, and place {{family name footnote}} in the lead sentence. 103.119.55.216 (talk) 12:26, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. I think it is better to have the visibility at the top of the article. RudolfRed (talk) 02:54, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose moving sub section "death and funeral: 1923-1924" up as a top level section.[edit]

Currently "death and funeral: 1923-1924" is a sub section under "Lenin's government". Does not seem logical. His death is really not a part of his government. PastaMonk 11:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the status quo is preferable; it is generally neater. Midnightblueowl (talk) 10:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Midnightblueowl:- A couple of months ago, I was reading a comment on Facebook that Lenin was assassinated on the orders of Stalin (this statement is seen very frequently on social media). I had a suspicion this is wrong information. I vaguely remember, he died of some illness. I came to this page to double check. I don't find this information. The average Wikipedia user does not have have the time or inclination to read the entire article, digest it, admire it's beauty etc. They need information they can look up quickly. That is what people expect from an encyclopedia. If the information cannot be found easily, it's not very neat. Agree ? PastaMonk 09:50, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Midnightblueowl:When viewed on Wikipedia mobile phone app the section "death and funeral: 1923-1924" is easy to find. For web users (on PC or laptop) it's not easy to find. The main sections appear collapsed. So, he won't know which one to expand to find the section on "death and funeral" PastaMonk 11:53, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]