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Serious content issues

As this article stands (October 07) it is a serious distortion of what actually went on, and needs to be seriously re-written!! Buckshot06 02:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, we're even linking to the wrong Sean MacEoin... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.27.190 (talk) 23:48, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes, I believe I must concur. Some of these citations are very unreliable, like this one: "J 29 Tunnan." everything2.com. Retrieved: 4 December 2010.. This one, "The United Nations and the Congo". HistoryLearningSite.co.uk. Retrieved 14 February 2015., includes such inaccurate information as Mobutu being appointed prime minister in 1960 to replace Lumumba. The secession of South Kasai is never explained. UN actions to suppress Gizenga's Free Republic of the Congo in 1962 are never mentioned. Criticism of ONUC from the way it dealt with Lumumba's deposition to it's forceful actions against Katanga are never fleshed out. Undue weight is given in several sections to European contribution (especially Canada) in ONUC, though some of this can be attributed to a lack of content on contributions of Ghana, Ethiopia, India, etc and not a surplus of info on the former. I'll do what I can, but this article needs some reorganization in it's citation format and a serious review of its content. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:16, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
I've added some pre-written material on South Kasai; your editing welcome/appreciated. Buckshot06 (talk) 10:55, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Hey, didn't they actually invade Katanga?

TIME article at the time:

"Reported Linner, with undisguised frustration: "This was the culmination of a long series of wrongful acts by these officers, including the organization of attacks on the United Nations, repeated threats, and incitements to violence." O'Brien issued an ultimatum: remove all remaining white officers, or else. When Tshombe flatly refused, U.N. troops went into action, while Hammarskjold, who had just arrived for a personal inspection, waited in Léopoldville.

Attack. Long before dawn one morning last week, a company of Indian troops backed by Irish armored cars surrounded the Elisabethville post office' held as a communications center by a Tshombe garrison. In French and Swahili, demands were megaphoned that the garrison yield the building. The answer was the rattle of machine guns. The U.N. returned fire, and for two hours streams of red tracer bullets crossed each other in the predawn darkness. An Indian soldier was hit in the face; he screamed. A Katanga gendarme, hit in the belly, fell from a second-story window, picked himself up, staggered away with his entrails hanging out. The driver of an armored car was decapitated, and his car lunged weirdly into a wall.

Other U.N. troops were deployed throughout the city. Indians took the state radio building after a charge with fixed bayonets. Swedish troops attacked the home of Tshombe's Interior Minister Godefroid Munongo (who had fled). Shortly after dawn, the U.N. forces gained their objectives, and O'Brien called a press conference to announce that "the Katanga secession is over. Katanga is now a Congolese province." The cease-fire announcement was vastly premature.

Siege. O'Brien, 43, an intense Irishman with literary leanings (he is noted for a study of Irish Insurrectionist Charles Stewart Parnell) had badly misjudged Moise Tshombe, the strength of his gendarmerie, and above all their determination to fight for Katanga's independence. After the announcement, the central government in Léopoldville named Egide Bocheley as Katanga's "High Commissioner" to replace Tshombe. Bocheley, a follower of far-left Vice Premier Antoine Gizenga, flew off for Elisabethville. When his plane landed, it was not safe for him to leave the airport, and he spent the night sitting up in a chair. Elisabethville was under siege. "

And so on.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,873396-1,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.234.60.154 (talk) 00:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Contributing nations

This article says nothing about which nations contributed troops for ONUC. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 18:23, 8 December 2010 (UTC) Indeed one should also include other nations : see for example http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Galleries/Wars/UN/Congo/ they transited through Dar es salaam (coming by boat) in the sixties Whynotnic (talk) 09:55, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Irish section

This part needs some work. Happy to help 'bring it up to standard'. Suggestions welcome. RashersTierney (talk) 11:37, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

RashersTierney, it seems that battalion histories of the Irish Army in the Congo do exist. Suggest a Google Scholar search on history of the Irish Army or a call/contact for the Irish National Library, or whatever title they call it. That would give a list of references we could add for further reading, and eventually someone could look them up and start add proper referenced information. Thanks for your work on this page -- it's a really unappreciated story. Buckshot06 (talk) 19:28, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Canada and excessive detail

I tagged the section on Canada's involvement and being overly detailed and User:Buckshot06 removed it. Unfortunately, this section is way more than half of the article, so at the very least, it is way out of proportion. Having a look at the section, it looks like a whole bunch of it is not really specific to Canada's involvement and should be moved to other sections. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 07:03, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

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