Talk:Ultranationalism

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The redirect Israeli ultranationalism has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 19 § Israeli ultranationalism until a consensus is reached. Jay 💬 14:23, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Pauline Hanson's One Nation from the list of ultranationalist Parties[edit]

Unless I am heavily biased (which honestly, I probably am, and I would like someone to point it out) Pauline Hanson's One Nation is either Populist, Nationalist or Conservative, probably a mix of the 3. She is not near an Ultranationalist nor the party and just has unpopular views at best. 119.18.1.236 (talk) 07:07, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pauline Hanson's nationalism is ideologically indistinguishable from every other nationalists "make nation great again by blaming foreigners" rhetoric.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism.
Particularly notable expressions of https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-nationalism include the vote for Brexit in the 2016 United Kingdom European Union membership referendum and the 2016 election of Donald Trump as the President of the United States. Several neo-nationalist politicians have come to power or run strongly during the 2010s, including Marine Le Pen in France, and Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil.
"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind." - Albert Einstein, 1929-10-26, https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/wp-content/uploads/satevepost/what_life_means_to_einstein.pdf
"I am against any nationalism, even in the guise of mere patriotism." David Howden (talk) 15:18, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs stricter requirements in which constitutes a contemporary ultranationalist party[edit]

I'm only talking on behalf of the Finnish "Finns Party", but I suspect other parties listed in the article might not fill the criteria for ultranationalism either. Pretty much nothing of the first few paragraphs of the article applies to the program or actions of The Finns Party (political violence, supremacism, "nation as a mythological organic entity"), rendering the list wholly unreliable and arbitrary. Essentially a contemporary nationalist-conservative-populist party is equaled to another since banned Finnish party that was called Patriotic People's Movement (IKL), which was literally a fascist party. Suomen Sisu is also an ultranationalist organisation to some extent, so at least regarding them, the article is correct.

This is problematic, considering how strong of a label "ultranationalist" is, especially for democratically elected parties that do their best to avoid that label. I would suggest using more caution when categorizing different parties, and using their official programs and official statements as reference. 86.115.240.62 (talk) 13:36, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]