Talk:Tucson Toros

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Toros alumni addition[edit]

I've removed this for now:

                  1988 Tucson Toros

?? Bob Didier Manager DoB 2/16/49 Hattiesburg MS

Didier played six seasons in the Major leagues. Begining with the Altanta Braves 1969-1972 followed by a season each with the Detroit Tigers in 1973 and finally with the Boston Red Sox in 1974

?? Eddie Watt coach DoB 4/4/42 Lamonie IW Watt played 10 years in the Major Leagues. Watt begin his career in the Majors with the Baltimore Orioles in 1966 and stayed with them for for eight years till 1973. Watt then played two more years in the Majors a season each in Philadelphia with the Phillies in 1974 then a season with the Chicago Cubs in 1975. Watt played college ball at Northern Iowa.

?? Ken Caminiti 3B DoB 4/21/63 Hanford CA Caminiti played with Columbus of the Southern League and in the Majors with the Houston Astros in 1987

?? Luis Deleon RHP DoB 8/19/58 Ponce P.R Deleon played for the Rochester Red Wings of the International League and in the Major League's with the Baltimore Orioles in 1987

?? Jose Cano RHP DoB unknown San Pedro De Macaris P.R Cano played with the class A Osceola Astros of the Florida State League in 1987

?? Rafael Montalvo RHP DoB 3/31/65 Rio Piedras Montalvo played with the Tucson Toros in 1987

?? Kevin Hagan RHP DoB 3/8/60 Renton WA Hagan played with the Toros as well as the Portland Beavers in 1987

?? Dave Meads LHP DoB 1/7/64 Montclair N.J Meads played last season in the Major Leagues with the Houston Astros

?? Mike Loynd RHP DoB 3/26/64 St. Louis MO Loynd saw time in the major leagues in 1987 with the Texas Ranges and time in the American Association with the Oklahoma City 89ers

?? Alex Trevino C DoB 8/26/57 Monterrey MX Trevino played the 1987 with the Los Angeles Dodgers

?? Pat Keedy UIF DoB 1/10/59 Birmingham Al Keedy played the 1987 with the PCL's Hawaii Islanders and saw time in the Majors with the Chicago White Sox

This is not formatted correctly for Wikipedia, and duplicates some of what is already in the article. If these players are notable enough to be mentioned here, it is probably best to just list them in the table that's already here, with Wikilink brackets around each name. If it's blue, the player has an article. If not, the player may not be notable enough for mention. For consistency, it is probably best to list the names only, and let people click through to the players' articles for details, unless the player is specifically notable for something done as a Toro, in which case the Timeline section is a better place to note it. I hope that helps! -- Karen | Talk | contribs 00:19, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Tucson Sidewinders?[edit]

I propose that we merge this article into Tucson Sidewinders, in a format similar to Iowa Cubs. The two articles have a significant amount of overlap, since they describe the same team before and after a re-naming. We should streamline them into one article to avoid covering the same ground twice, taking care to retain enough of the visual content from the Toros article (pics, logos) to ensure that we document the former identity. SixFourThree (talk) 16:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree[reply]

I disagree that the Toros and Sidewinders articles be merged. They should be kept seperate. They are two different franchises. According to what I read, Jay Zucker not only owns the current Sidewinders team in the PCL, but also owns the naming rights to the "Toros". As the history indicates, both teams are different. The word is that the current Reno Silver Sox of the Golden Baseball League will relocate to Tucson and be renamed the Toros. I think the Mesa Miners article should be merged with the Silver Sox article, but not the Toros and Sidewinders. Ccwstandard (talk) 18:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Separate the two Toros teams?[edit]

Would it be better to separate out the old Tucson Toros (the AAA PCL team) from the independent league team? The two organizations are different entities with different histories. The only similarities are the location and the name. I wouldn't know how to do it but I personally think it would be the way to go. Dcs315 (talk) 00:28, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree - I could do the split - it wouldn't be hard. However, the only other team I know that fits this bill (the St Paul Saints) has only one page as well. So I'm not sure if this is some kind of precedence or just laziness. I posted a similar "Split?" thread on the Saints' Talk page to see if there is any comment. If not, I'll probably just split both pages when I have some spare time. Ckruschke (talk) 07:44, 17 May 2013 (UTC)Ckruschke[reply]

Would like to revisit this. The indie team definitely needs to be split. It is not the same as the former affiliated team. Actually, looking at this, I think it needs to be split more than just that. The earlier teams are not the Triple-A team, either, and should all be split up. oknazevad (talk) 04:09, 29 July 2021 (UTC) PS, I also think the article about the Triple-A team should be under the Sidewinders name, being that was it's last name. oknazevad (talk) 04:10, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]