Talk:Torupill

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Feel free to fix my mistakes- this is my first article on Wikipedia and I probably have a lot to learn :)
--viller

I fixed up some of the grammar. Also replaced 'maw' with 'stomach' (in modern english, maw is taken to mean a large mouth not a stomach, but I know the bags aren't made from mouths...). I also replaced 'phrase' with 'passage' - a musical phrase is short, a passage is long. Not 100% this is what you mean, there are various other words I could have put there, 'theme', 'motif' are others.

The one thing I couldn't work out is 'phrof wood' for the blowpipe? I'm guessing its a hardwood of some kind but none of the names I guessed got close in the Estonian-English online dictionaey. Bazzargh 01:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! --viller

Lootspill[edit]

Is the Torupill also known as the lootspill? My understanding was that the Lootspill was a kind of button accordion. Ukebert (talk) 14:49, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GoogleImages brings up tons of pics of accordions for lootspill, so you raise a good point. I checked on GoogleBooks, and found one book which claims it's can be a synonym:

Brussels Museum of Musical Instruments bulletin - Volumes 6-7 - Page 47 [1] - Conservatoire royal de musique de Bruxelles. Musée instrumental - 1976 - THE ESTONIAN BAGPIPE Igor TonurisT The bagpipe (torupill) was a highly popular musical instrument with the Estonians until the middle of the 19th century, but ... Not often some other names were used (e.g. kitsepill, lootspill, kotepill, etc.

It appears to be quoting the Tonurist paper. For what it's worth, my vague impression is that a lot of cultures have used kind of vague local words for accordions, which are often mixed up with other instruments. If the term turns out to be highly questionable I'm not opposed to removing it, but Tonurist seems pretty credible. MatthewVanitas (talk) 16:42, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lootspill in is actually written in Estonian "lõõtspill". And yes, it is similar to accordion. Pelmeen10 (talk) 12:33, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Usage by Estonian Defence League[edit]

As to why I undid Pelmeen's revison: the section is by now cited well enough and the topic has been covered in multiple articles, thus establishing notability. - Neptuunium (talk) 03:53, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This usage is not relevant to Torupill. Are you gonna add military usage to Drums, Piano etc? Pelmeen10 (talk) 11:20, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Military usage of the Scottish Great Highland bagpipes has been covered in its article. Same with drums. Also I'm pretty sure that information about different usages of the instrument is quite relevant to this article. - Neptuunium (talk) 13:47, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

RFC: Usage by Estonian Defence League[edit]

The consensus is against including a section covering the use of Estonian bagpipes by the Estonian Defence League and its pipeband. Cunard (talk) 04:49, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Should the article include a section covering the use of Estonian bagpipes by the Estonian Defence League and its pipeband? - Neptuunium (talk) 22:37, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Survey[edit]

Yes - Section is cited using multiple sources. I think it's also worth noting that miliray usage of other instruments, such as the drum and Scottish Great Highland bagpipe, has been covered in their respective articles. - Neptuunium (talk) 22:37, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No - It's not relevant to this instrument article. But your work is not deleted, see Estonian Defence League#Culture. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 23:14, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No - No need to mention every place you find a piano or any other instrument being used, so no need to mention it for this instrument. WikiVirusC (talk) 13:55, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No - Summoned by bot. Per arguments noted above. Not exactly relevant for this page. Meatsgains (talk) 16:24, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.