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I've said numerous times that the current infobox image in which Blair has a weird fixed stare would not be my personal choice. Other people have also said that they are not fans of this image. My personal choice is this, which is cropped and edited from a 2009 image on Commons and has been used in the past.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 07:02, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
User:ianmacm I find your proposed image awkward as his mouth is wide open. What are your thoughts on my proposed image? Ak-eater06 (talk) 22:34, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's ok, but I'm not a great fan of his facial expression in this image either.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 07:01, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Proposed image #2
I’ve recently came across this fairly recent image of Blair on the Commons and thought it would be a suitable image to have in the lead.
@Ianmacm:, @Ak-eater06: – what do you both think? 2A01:4C8:1406:5988:8D8F:EF06:E212:536A (talk) 17:00, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Proposed image #2 is OK and shows Blair in 2019. Again there is a slight problem with Blair's facial expression but it is better than some that have been suggested.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 18:24, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's a portrait taken by a professional photographer for the European Commission. It's the closest thing we have to an official portrait. I don't see how it's "unnatural"; his pose is the same as that of Vladimir Putin in his infobox image. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk·contribs·email) 18:48, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Personally I feel as though a photograph of Blair during his premiership would be best for the article, as the majority of infobox images for UK Prime Ministers (Theresa May, Boris Johnson, etc) are from their premierships. So having Blair's infobox image be a photo from his premiership would make the most sense IMO. The proposed infobox image would work great as it's taken during Blair's premiership and is also used for his sidebar too. --88.108.44.8 (talk) 20:02, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the current image should be changed at all, but if it were to be changed it think it should be the one I've put forward. It's the closest thing we have to an actual official portrait. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 16:38, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I support the first choice. Near all PMs have their official portraits, or those otherwise taken during their premiership, and it makes no sense to have one from 2010. Ditto for US presidents etc., despite more current photos existing for e.g. Jimmy Carter or John Major. JJLiu112 (talk) 15:15, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It makes perfect sense. Blair was still serving as special envoy at the time of the photograph, and this is the closest we have to an official portrait of him in office. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk·contribs·email) 17:07, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I support the 2002 image, because (1) Blair was Prime Minister and we have precedent for PMs' images being from their premiership (2) the photo was tacitly OK'd by a govt body (held in NARA), assuming America is ~ EU and (3) it's otherwise an image of acceptable quality. JJLiu112 (talk) 18:34, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The 2002 image isn't a professional portrait (it's cropped from a landscape image), the 2010 image is and it's the highest quality image of Blair that exists on Commons. Also, the precedent is not for images being from the premiership but from when they were last in office, and Blair is unique in having held office after leaving the premiership. Per MOS:LEADIMAGE, Lead images should be natural and appropriate representations of the topic; they should not only illustrate the topic specifically, but also be the type of image used for similar purposes in high-quality reference works, criteria which the 2010 image meets as his portrait from serving as special envoy. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk·contribs·email) 18:48, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Think the image used should be Tony Blair 3.jpg as it appears more updated and is from when he was still special envoy. Also of high quality Fm675 (talk) 20:45, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"In 2003, Blair supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq and had the British Armed Forces participate in the Iraq War, claiming that Saddam Hussein's regime possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMDs); no WMDs were ever found in Iraq."[edit]
Can this sentenced be changed to "In 2003, Blair supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq and had the British Armed Forces participate in the Iraq War, claiming that Saddam Hussein's regime possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), which were never found there." 79.66.89.36 (talk) 20:18, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Heraldic sculptor Ian G Brennan has updated his website to reveal his model of Blair's crest. [1][2]Robin S. Taylor (talk) 09:53, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Baz Manning has released photographs of the Dean of Windsor's tables, showing Blair's shield as a Knight of the Garter.[[3]] Robin S. Taylor (talk) 20:14, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at the discussions above and in the archive, the current infobox image does not have a huge fan club. The problem is lack of consensus for what should replace it.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 17:30, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's the best-quality portrait available of Blair on Commons. The idea that it puts him "in an unfavourable light" is utterly ridiculous. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk·contribs·email) 20:31, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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@Jambo5555 - Do you have a source for your claims that Blair is placed "in the top teir [sic] of British prime ministers" or that he "often ranks highly" in historical rankings of them? You've failed to provide one in eight edits and your vague gesturing to "historians, other scholars, the public, journalists and MPs" in your edit summary catastrophically fails WP:V. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 21:30, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Tim,
let's sort this out. Sorry for 'gesturing' and 'catastrophically failing'. I'm judging 'ranking highly' as top ten, but you can dispute that.
I'm sorry that I made unsourced edits. I assumed that the 'historical rankings of prime ministers' wikipedia article would be sufficent reference. I honestly believe this is relevant to a overview of Blair's position as prime minister, and within the wider context of British politics. I'm sorry you're taking issue with this, I'm not out to execute a imposition of a Tony Blair wikipedia page, I just tried to make a edit I honestly though would be helpful.
Some of these are a bit iffy, like politicsblog and theconversation. Some, like The Independent, are good. If you want to add that, you can put it in the article body itself rather than in the lead. PS: I personally like Blair. I don't like unverified info. That's what I'm taking issue with: not you. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 21:52, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay fair enough. Sorry for being a bit of a dick, I've had a really bad day.
I think I'm just going to leave it. I get what you're saying, certainly politiicsblog isn't a good source, and like you say historical rankings are a bit sporadic and patchy. Jambo5555 (talk) 21:54, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. All the best for the future — Tim O'Doherty (talk) 21:55, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know this has been discussed many a time but I think we should have an image for when he was in office probably a photo used in the 2005 United Kingdom general election infobox as it is an up to date image for when he was in office. RealTaxiDriver (talk) 20:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
TBH I'm not a fan of Tony Blair WEF (cropped). This is another photo where he is pulling a weird face, and it would be better to have one with a more natural expression.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 08:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He actually was in office in 2010, the time of the current image, as special envoy. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk·contribs·email) 19:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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