Talk:Tommy Burns (diver)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 11:15, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Comments

• "century, Burns gained.." - he gained  Done
• "have been drinking prior" I guess you mean alcohol?  Done
• "By this time, he " maybe "At this time" or "Before this dive" because it seems odd to suggest that destitution was "by the time" he died.  Done
• "Although Burns had been drinking excessively" okay well that sounds like the comment I made two previously needs consolidation.  Done
• "1880s-1897" en-dash.  Done
• Don't like linking in quotes, but "horizontal bar" might need a link.  Done
• "within just nine days" remove "just". Perhaps put in the distance required to allow the reader to understand the undertaking.

Removed "just", though it's not possible to specify a distance as there too many unknown variables. Most reading will appreciate that Liverpool and London are distantly apart within the geography of the UK.

• " 2nd January 1897" 2 January.  Done
• "the Edinburgh Evening News reported" italics.  Done
• " shilling" link.  Done
• "by the Dundee Courier to" italics.  Done
• "Scotland in 1895" overlinked, and if it stays, comma after Scotland.  Done
• "on 29th January " 29 January.  Done
• "newspaper the Evening Tribune as being" italics.  Done
• "Tommy Burns was" no need for Tommy.  Done
• "reported " by whom?  Done
• "24 year old" hyphenate.  Done
• "water[21] until a yacht rescued them.[4]" put the refs together at the end, rather than this awkward juxtaposition.  Done
• "saved 32 lives[2] and by October 1896," ditto.

There are 2 separate figures being cited here by 2 independent references, which each support the specific figure they are following.

• "-known steeplechase jockey Mr W Gale" well-known but not notable?

Fair enough. The ref notes they were well-known though i'd struggle to support this view.  Done

• "the Royal Aquarium into" overlinked.  Done
• "intoxicated with drink" alcohol?  Done
• "on Saturday 10th July" don't need day of the week, and just 10 July.  Done
• "Rhyl Pier provided" overlinked.  Done
• Burns' -> Burns's

Yet, it isn't incorrect to have just an apostrophe alone in this instance, right? I think either is acceptable with singular proper nouns which end with s.

• Consider {{clear}} before the Ref section because the image of the fatal dive is squashing the refs.

I considered it, but I can't say I am at all a fan. The ref squashing is at worst a minor cosmetic concern and only seems apparent on particularly wide resolutions.

That's all I have on a first run through. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 20:25, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks for this. I'll work through once I have completed your other article review. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:40, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Just to advise that I plan to start working through this review in the next 1-3 days. Thanks. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:20, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Bungle no rush but are you planning to complete these points soon? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 09:24, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: Absolutely! Early September is the busiest working time of the year for me and my free time is severely curtailed (hence the lack of general activity on wikipedia as a whole), however I do endeavour to work through the GA to completion asap. Many thanks for your patience. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:01, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

No problem at all, just checking we were still going to progress. Cheers, don't work too hard! The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:06, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: I have addressed or responded to all your points now. As with the other review, I did have some queries or comments on some points (a GA review is a collaboration, after all), so feel free to clarify or justify any if necessary. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:29, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

I have nothing more to add here, it's looking good. Regarding Burns's, see MOS:'s. But MOS compliance isn't a requirement of GAN so I'll leave it to you. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 08:45, 17 September 2021 (UTC)