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Untitled[edit]

Hi, I started this page inspired by the Timeline of Northumbria and Northumberland. Most of the items included are not referenced but link to the subject they describe. Also entries on the page have kept each very brief so that the page does not get overcrowded. Hope that other interested people will add to the list when they can. Talskiddy 20:05, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Modern Humans[edit]

Are you sure on that part about modern humans? I didn't think there were modern humans 400,000 years ago? Humans perhaps, but not the modern type. Wikipedia has Anatomically modern humans originating in Africa 200,000 years ago. Modern Humans with full behavioural modernity 50,000 years ago with an out of Africa migration at 70,000 years ago.

But hey I am no expert so I will let you figure out what is correct rather than putting in an edit that is just as likely to be wrong. The Last Heretic (talk) 05:20, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, the information is not sound, and should be withdrawn. The reference link is also dead.124.185.23.163 (talk) 12:06, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Before Christ[edit]

I have added this section to sketch the ancient history of Cornwall which pre-dates the Romans. Cornwall is unique within the UK, so far as I know, in having families still occupying settlements with the same name as the family surname with a history of continuous occupation which pre-dates the Roman Conquest. An example is Trefusis, near Flushing, across the Penryn River from Falmouth.

Adrian Watts (talk) 12:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting stuff - do you know of any published sources for this that we can use? I'd just add an invite to you to join the Cornwall Wikiproject - we are always glad to have new editors. DuncanHill (talk) 12:53, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are published sources: the best is a book now out of print entitled 'The Kingdom of Dumnonia' still available in public libraries in Cornwall and Devon. This includes the Dumnonian King List recorded before its collapse during the Dark Ages. There are plenty of archaeological sources and evidence for Cornwall in the Iron Age. There are very few surviving written records of the Celtic kingdoms of Dumnonia or Cornwall (other than a few remnant manuscripts and incised standing stones) because it was a primarily oral culture, and the ruling aristocracy reverted to British traditions by and large after the fall of Rome, e.g. with the re-occupation and refortification of Iron Age forts and cliff castles. The last stand of the Celts of Devon and of Cornwall, who were Christian, against the pagan/barbarian horse-eating Saxons (!) is not well documented, other than in 'The Matter of Britain' - the Arthurian saga - which has been wholly mis/re-interpreted and distorted by successive subsequent rulers of the island!

Thanks for the invitation - how do I join the Cornwall Wikiproject? Adrian Watts (talk) 13:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can find the project at WP:CORNWALL just go along there and add yourself to the member list. You can put a short note about your special areas of interest too. You can also say "hello" to the other members at the talk page there. It's a good place to ask for help with articles, or to discuss improvements etc. You'll also find some ideas for jobs to do. DuncanHill (talk) 13:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Before Christ paragraphs would be more suited to History of Cornwall article. Entries here show the timeline of Cornish history, so each entry should be preceeded with a date. Talskiddy

I've tried changing the 'Before Christ' heading into blue - or maybe it would best simply as 'B.C.' but can't seem to edit the page any more ... Any idea why not? I think this opening pragraph is a helpful explanation for the origins of the timeline. Adrian Watts (talk) 10:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing[edit]

How do I insert a reference to my source/s? "The Kingdom of Dumnonia: Studies in History and Tradition in South western Britain, AD 350 - 1150", Susan. M. Pearce, 1978, St George Printing Works Ltd, Camborne, Cornwall/Lodenek Press, Padstow, ISBN O 902899 68 6. Adrian Watts (talk) 12:14, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The simplect way is just to enclose the reference in "ref tags" to do that, type <ref>insert your reference here</ref>, just after the fact that it is a reference to. (It won't look like that once you have saved it - it will generate a reference number, and then list the actual reference at the bottom of the page in the references section. DuncanHill (talk) 13:36, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please keep it brief[edit]

Some of these edits are getting a bit long - please just add a date and the event. Longer articles should be moved to the main article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Cornwall - Thanks. <font face="comic sans ms"><b> (talk)

Robert of Mortain[edit]

This has a statement that he was a Celtic speaking Breton: where does this idea come from as nothing in his own article suggests he would have needed to speak Celtic as well as Norman-French. His vassals would have been in contact with the Bretons.----Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 13:09, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Celtic Congress[edit]

1904 reads as "Cornwall accepted into Celtic Congress". That was actually the year when Henry Jenner published his Handbook of the Cornish Language. Cornwall's acceptance into the Celtic Congress was not until the 1920's according to the Celtic Congress page. I'm not sure about the exact year though. --ResYwDhymmDybriChoklet (talk) 04:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Celtic Congress was formed out of the Celtic Association which Cornwall joined in 1904. --ResYwDhymmDybriChoklet (talk) 04:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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From British Isles: "British Isles," Encyclopædia Britannica
From Cornish people: "Cornish people formally declared a national minority along with Scots, Welsh and Irish". The Independent. 23 April 2014. Retrieved 23 April 2014.
From Catholic Church: "Pope Benedict XVI. 1 January 2012 – Feast of Solemnity of the Blessed Virgin Mary". Vatican.va. 1 January 2012. Retrieved 17 August 2012.

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807: Unsuccessful Cornish alliance with Danes.[1][edit]

I believe that the source for this entry needs to be verified. The source is not reputable or verifiable. Haggis Warrior (talk) 00:28, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]