Talk:Thomas Sackville, 1st Earl of Dorset

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A Thomas Sackville travelled with a theatre group to Leiden, and Wolfenbuttel (1592), the first German city with a steady theater company.Taksen (talk) 05:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source for that? Thanks, (fotoguzzi) 69.64.235.42 (talk) 19:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Freemasonry[edit]

The allusion to Freemasonry requires better referencing if it is to be included. The history of Freemasonry in the 16th century is obscure, to say the least: it is only much later that one can speak confidently of any historical facts. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The system of Freemasonry which we know today, as originated during the 1700s, certainly was not around at that time, but there were still Masonic Lodges in England before then; I don't know what went on in these lodges and if it has any similarities to speculative freemasonry today or whether it was some transitional form that was still grounded in operative masonry. But the lodges did exist. Whatever form Freemasonry took in the mid to late 1500s, Thomas Sackville was definitely involved with it and was a Grand Master - this is documented in many sources.

The Works of Thomas Sackville The Impact of Freemasonry on Elizabethan Literature An encyclopedia of Freemasonry and its kindred sciences American Masonic register and literary companion

98.212.25.19 (talk)

Reliable sources are needed, though. There is very little evidence of masonry in England before 1600: David Stevenson, The Origins of Freemasonry (CUP, 1988), p. 217. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:49, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]