Talk:The Villages, Florida/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: SounderBruce (talk · contribs) 01:44, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Will review this, but there seems to be some obvious issues (History section being too short and mostly uncited, large tables and lists, etc.) that need to be fixed. SounderBruce 01:44, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Lead

• Lead does not adequately summarize the history section
• Overuse of "The Villages" in the lead
• WP:LEADCITE issues; I recommend removing them entirely if they can't be consistently sourced here.
• The metropolitan area's boundaries should be mentioned before the factoid about its growth.

History

• Second and third paragraphs are entirely unsourced.
• Any pre-1960s history? A quick look at historic aerial imagery shows a lot of farms in the area.
• Third paragraph includes promotional puffery, such as "well maintained" and "significantly upgrade".
• No mention of events between the early 1990s and 2017.
• Several stray sentences touting "best-selling" awards that should be bundled and cleaned up to remove promotional wording.
• Some phrases seem to have been copied from this source, such as "one of only four communities to sell more than 1,000 homes" and "community of the decade, with 24,440 new home sales from 2010 through 2019".

Structure

• This section would probably work better as a subsection of Geography, and should be expanded to mention the general subdivisions of The Villages and its architectural styles, among other points.
• Unnecessary italicization of "Villages" in here.

Geography

• Woefully underdeveloped section. At minimum, it needs to have more than just the boilerplate Census paragraph.
• Mention the surroundings, where in the county/state it is located, nearby features, and fauna/flora if available.

Demographics

• Any population statistics before the 2000 census?
• This section should only use detailed statistics from a decennial census, not the yearly estimate. The 2020 data should be available and is much better than the mixture of 2016 and 2019 estimates.
• Surely there has to be a mention of the spread of sexually transmitted diseases within the populace, which has been reported on in several reliable sources.
• Forbes list is unnecessary.
• Expand on the origin of emigrant residents, but the current sentence is in need of major cleanup.
• Home ownership data should be condensed and include a cleaner in-text attribution.
• Crime section is only sourced from a single news report that needs to be backed up with other sources (especially raw data from the FBI or Florida's databases).

Politics

• Section should be merged into Government as a subsection.
• Presidential visits section needs to be trimmed. The third paragraph in particular uses too many quotes that are copied from the source.

Business

• Section should be renamed "Economy"
• Exact counts of grocery stores are not necessary.
• "Fastest growing area" is vague without a proper label.
• No mention of where employees in these businesses commute from?

Government

• Too much overlap with the Politics section, with repeated information on campaign visits.
• State and county representation do not need their own subsections, and need to be better sourced.
• The entire Local government section needs better sources.
• The districts table is unnecessary.
• Describe why and how the two HOAs are separated.

Recreational activities

• Section should be renamed "Parks and recreation"
• Golf section has undue weight and reads like a travel guide.
• The 11 parks should be listed with some detail instead of being a quick, uncited mention at the end of a detailed section on Recreation centers.
• The list of performing artists is unnecessary.
• Merge the faux history subsection from below into the Entertainment or History section. Critical commentary is best when not relegated to a separate section at the bottom of the page.
• "Some of the most popular are location focused and based upon where a resident grew up" can be trimmed.

Media

• No citation for the first paragraph.
• The documentary's title should be italicized.
• Local media listings need more citations.

Transportation

• Some phrases seem to have been lifted from this source and need to be reworded. For example: "trolley-style bus tour of the community" and "sales and information center located at The Market Square in Lake Sumter Landing".
• The Pine Ridge Dairy purchase should be moved to the History section.
• Before mentioning the overpasses, it would be best to introduce the golf cart culture of The Villages and statistics on ownership/use.
• "Currently under construction" is likely outdated.
• "Weekday loops" to where?
• No citations for most of the Public transportation section.
• "the vehicle will have a safety driver in the driver's seat and later the driver will be removed and the automobile would be monitored from a control station" is a mouthful.
• "technology-rich" is not NPOV language.
• Any updates on the autonomous taxis pilot program?

Education

• "The following school listings" should be reworded.
• The list of school districts uses repeated technical phrases ("zoned", "family unit neighborhood") that need to be softened for readability.
• The post-secondary section does not need its own subsections.

Annual events

• This standalone section should be merged with a few others to form a general "Arts and culture section"

Other sections

• Most comprehensive GAs on populated places include sections on local Arts (not just Entertainment, but fine arts), Utilities, Healthcare, and Libraries, among others.

Criticism

• Criticism sections should be avoided, with the content instead merged into the appropriate sections.
  • I suggest moving the IRS audit (after significant trimming) to the Government section, and the "Faux history" into the Entertainment section.

Notable people

• Knight needs a citation.

Popular culture

• Redundant to the documentary's listing in the Media section.

Images

• Already removed the gallery, but there needs to be more images distributed evenly among the sections.

References

• Far too reliant on sources close to the subject, such as TheVillages.com.
• Villages-News does not seem like a reliable source.
• Formatting issues: Citations 6 (title need to be trimmed), 21 (missing data), 22 (missing title), 24 (missing details), 25 (missing data), 34/35 (incorrect publication name), 58 (missing title), 59 (missing everything), 60/61 (missing details), 101 (missing details), etc.
• Citation 52 needs to be replaced with a secondary source.
• Citations 75, 76, and 95 are duplicates.
• Citations 96 and 97 are duplicates.
• Citations 98, 99, and 100 are duplicates and seem to be sales listings, which are not reliable secondary sources.
• IMDb is not a reliable source.
• Citations 124 to 129 are all missing some details.
• Book citations need to be properly linked and formatted

External sources

• Entries that are used as sources should be merged into the References list. The rest should be in an "External links" section.
• The documentary does not need to be linked here, and neither does the Newseum archive of front pages.

Given the number of issues that have been noted above, I'm afraid this article is unsuitable for GA status. It will take a lot of work to get this one up to an acceptable level. SounderBruce 04:55, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed analysis and I will start working on the list.Whoisjohngalt (talk) 13

35, 9 February 2022 (UTC)