Talk:The Teahouse of the August Moon (film)

I wonder... has this film been released to DVD yet? Sweetfreek 20:19, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

A good article, thanks.

I was afraid that the article on this film would be suffused with PC-ese on cultural imperialism or how anachronistic it (supposedly) is, but instead, the author has written a very fair and balanced article. The film is touching and a pleasure to watch. And it treats the American presence in Japan/Okinawa in a similar fashion to the way this issue is handled in "The Third Man" - but without the sinister subtext: post-war America as an ingenuos but well-meaning bumbler. But as the reviewer has noted, Ford's character goes native and embraces the villagers. It should also be noted that there is a very funny throw-away line in the movie about Communism that satirizes McCarthyism, but I won't spoil it by spelling it out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.209.57.217 (talk) 18:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC).

Philosophy

The article quotes

Sakini: (played by Brando) who says the following

"Pain makes man think. Thought makes man wise. Wisdom makes life endurable".

see Life endurable

--Conh 22:26, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Recovered Article based on the above

Recovered from a deleted article "Life Endurable".

The translations into Latin and Irish were done by myself. Apologies for the grammar but I think its not too bad.

--Conh 19:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Life Endurable

Japanese proverb

– from the The Teahouse of the August Moon

Pain makes man think,

Thought makes man wise and

Wisdom makes life endurable.

PC version – (man = one)

Suffering makes one think

Thinking makes one wise and

Wisdom makes life Endurable

Latin

Dolor nos cogitare fit, (nos nobis)

Cogitans nos sapientes fit et (nos nobis donat)

Sapientia vitam tolerans efficit.

Tribulatio compellit nos cogitare (adigit (30/7/04))

Cogitans nos adigit sapientes et

Sapientia vitam tolerans efficit

Irish

An Phian a chuireann muidne ag smaoineamh, sinne duinn muide daoine

An Smaoineamh a dheineann sinn críonach agus sinne duinn

An Chríonacht a leigeann duinn cur suas leis an tsaoil.

Tugannan Phian cúis duinn smaoineamh, sinne duinn muide daoine

Tagann an críonnacht duinn mar gheall ar an smaointeacht sinn duinn

Agus ‘sé an Chríonnacht a leigeann duinn cur suas leis an tsaoil.

Cúisionn an phian duinn smaoineamh a dhéanamh á é í í ó ú

(note Ag léarsmaoineamh is luath ar churraí cruadh an tsaoil.)

A Christian version with Hope added

Paul to Romans 5 :1-5

1. justified therefore out of faith let us have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ

2. through Whom we obtained access, by faith, in the grace in which we stand (firm) and rejoice in the hope of glory ofGod.

3. not alone that but let us exult in tribulations, knowing that suffering produces endurance

4. but endurance makes a proven character (proof of our faith ? Knox)

and a proven character begets hope

5. and hope does not disappoint us (does not make ashamed)

because God’s love is diffused into our hearts

through the Holy Spirit which has been given to us.

Rheims Douai - Paul to Romans 5 :1-5

1 iustificati igitur ex fide pacem habeamus ad Deum per Dominum nostrum Iesum Christum

2 per quem et accessum habemus fide in gratiam istam in qua stamus et gloriamur in spe gloriae (filiorum) Dei

3 non solum autem sed et gloriamur in tribulationibus scientes quod tribulatio patientiam operatur

4 patientia autem probationem probatio vero spem

5 spes autem non confundit quia caritas Dei diffusa est in cordibus nostris per Spiritum Sanctum qui datus est nobis

New American Bible - Paul to Romans 5 :1-5

1 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

2 through whom we have gained access (by faith) to this grace in which we stand, and we boast in hope of the glory of God.

3 Not only that, but we even boast of our afflictions, knowing that affliction produces endurance,

4 and endurance, a proven character, and proven character, hope,

5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out into our hearts through the holy Spirit that has been given to us.

See Bible, http://eveninglight.org/BIBLE/PARALLEL/B45C005.htm#V3 (character, Testedness – tried character)

(endurance - patience )

(affliction, tribulation, suffering, works down, brings about) (Greek) (Greek) Look up Greek Vulgate Romans 5 dokimen

Teahouse Text

The Teahouse of the August Moon with Marlon Brando, is a 1956 motion picture comedy satirising the US occupation of Japan following the end of World War II. John Patrick adapted the screenplay from his own Pulitzer Prize and Tony Award winning Broadway play of 1953. The play was, in turn, adapted from a 1951 novel by Vern J. Sneider.

It was Sakini, played by Brando, who said "Pain makes man think. Thought makes man wise. Wisdom makes life endurable". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Teahouse_of_the_August_Moon

Adversity

Misfortunes leave wounds which bleed drop by drop even in sleep; thus little by little they train man by force and dispose him to wisdom in spite of himself. Man must learn to think of himself as a limited and dependent being; and only suffering teaches him this. Simone Weil (1909–43), French philosopher, mystic. La Source Grecque, pt. 1, ch. 2 (1953).

Theory Let us work without theorizing, ‘tis the only way to make life endurable. Voltaire (1694–1778), French philosopher, author. Martin, in Candide, ch. 30 (1759).

See also:

Engels on Action; Proust on Art

Adversity

It is in the gift for employing all the vicissitudes of life to one’s own advantage and to that of one’s craft that a large part of genius consists. G. C. Lichtenberg (1742–99), German physicist, philosopher. Aphorisms, “Notebook K,” aph. 48 (written 1765–99; tr. by R. J. Hollingdale, 1990).

Original on --Conh 22:20, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Moved here --Conh 19:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by C. J. Harrington (talk • contribs) 19:39, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

Film?

The opening line threw me off, I had always head of this as a book and play but never a film. Later, the others were mentioned, but couldn't we add some copyright information, and more information on the orginal versions? It makes no sense to start by talking about the spinoff's format.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC) Where's the Plot Summary text??? It disappeared suddenly.AlbertSM (talk) 18:31, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Yellowface

I find it frankly amazing that this article makes no mention whatsoever of the controversy regarding Marlon Brando's 'yellowface' performance in this film. There have been repeated mentions of it as a controversial role for Brando to have played. The first time I encountered a mention of the film in print was in the 'Golden Turkey Awards' where it won the category of 'Most Offensive Racial Stereotyping'.

Other examples of it being mentioned as featuring a notorious 'yellowface performance':

http://www.asianweek.com/top-25-yellow-face-performance-10to6/ - comes in at no. 9 in Asianweek's 25 top yellowface performances.

http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/18/18_yellow.php - "Brando gets a "C" for effort, and actually attempts an "authentic" Japanese accent (he even speaks some Japanese, but it's all in that unique Brando voice). Standard prosthetic eyepieces and makeup, made all the more noticeable because he is the only actor in yellowface in a sea of Asian extras and secondary characters. Looking unmistakably like Marlon Brando doesn't help either."

http://www.racebending.com/v3/background/history-of-yellowface/ - a history of 'yellowface' performances complains that, in the 50s, asian roles were more commonly played by caucasian actors.

Teahouse of the August Moon even gets a mention in the Wikipedia page Portrayal of East Asians in Hollywood: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrayal_of_East_Asians_in_Hollywood

As I've never edited wikipedia before I'm going to leave it for now but I feel there are plenty of sources that would make it almost a necessity to mention this aspect of the movie prominently and without burying it within the text. 123.117.0.135 (talk) 17:13, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

OK, I changed it myself- one line was all that was necessary when I considered it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.117.0.135 (talk) 17:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

huh?? just MY opinion, i thought this was a sweet & funny (satire) movie.. taken in content! of when it was made! and NOT, 2008 etc. In category of 'Most Offensive Racial Stereotyping'....?? see Mickey Rooney in stupid movie 'Brkfst @ Tiffany's'. geez ppl, get an education. 2600:1700:A760:C10:FC64:5E4A:DF05:F44C (talk) 17:01, 10 June 2019 (UTC)