Talk:The Orville

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New Horizons[edit]

This is the first case I have seen where a TV show changes its name and network and it is counted as a new season of the original. Why is this not being treated as a separate TV show, with a separate Wikipedia article? Rp2006 (talk) 01:49, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, start with this. And also, there is such a show in MCU. IKhitron (talk) 03:00, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok then… Looking at some of those examples of shows with changed names on Wikipedia it seems the articles have the current or final name of the show (Seinfeld, not the Seinfeld Chronicles). So shouldn’t this article name have New Horizons then to be consistent? Rp2006 (talk) 03:53, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not necessarily. DreamWorks Dragons changed to DreamWorks Dragons: Race to the Edge for six out of its eight seasons; at the episodes article, the season numbers reset for the tables after it moved to Netflix, but continue consecutively in the series overview. Same with its spinoff, DreamWorks Dragons: Rescue Riders, later DreamWorks Dragons: Rescue Riders: Heroes of the Sky. -- Alex_21 TALK 00:39, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seth MacFarlane released a video recently about the shows move to Disney+ in the U.S. where he says all THREE seasons of The Orville would be on the service. He also speaks with many different TV media outlets often who ask him about the fourth season chances where he states he's up for it if theres demand from fans. He doesn't at any point refer to the New Horizons as a new series. 2A00:23C8:5228:1601:449D:3D8B:E35:CC8A (talk) 14:28, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The name change to "Orville: New Horizons" immediately reminded me of Little House on the Prairie. It ran for almost a decade, but in its 9th and final season the show was renamed "Little House: A New Beginning". I thought Seth MacFarlane was actually referencing it in some way, especially considering season 3, like New Beginning, maybe be its last. At any rate, if you look at the Little House article, it doesn't segregate them into two shows, nor should the Orville and Orville: New Horizons. Now...on the flip side there are two separate articles for All in the Family and Archie Bunker's Place mind you, even though the latter is basically a continuation of the first show. Though the difference there are some major changes, especially by its second season which drastically departs from All in the Family by changing the personality of the main character and switching out all the original cast members. Season 3 of the Orville, despite some minor changes (toning down the humor, more political stories) I wouldn't split it into a new article. Anymore than "Enterprise" and the retitled Star Trek: Enterprise (remember it originally did not carry the Star Trek name until season 3).--Apple2gs (talk) 05:36, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There is a very thin line between continuation and spin-off. I still can't decide for myself which one is Girl Meets World for Boy Meets World. IKhitron (talk) 12:09, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Genre Out-of-Date, Please update[edit]

It is no longer "a comedy," although it allows the humor to flow naturally from the interactions between the very relatable ensemble cast.

It now deals with very serious issues and allegories. While the last part of Season 3 lightened up a lot, it's full-on classic science fiction that happens to have a lovable cast. Once you know these folks, you CARE about them.

A 4th season is likely but not confirmed and a massive fan campaign for it's renewal by it's most recent streaming service is underway. 98.149.51.179 (talk) 09:45, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

4th season?[edit]

Any information if and when it will go on? Mopsos Sohn des Ampyx (talk) 09:42, 28 February 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by FlightTime (talk • contribs) [reply]

Audience scores[edit]

This article previously noted the disparity between the critics scores and audience scores, but it was removed.[1] The editor removed it based on a good faith interpretation of MOS:TVRECEPTION (and WP:UGC), which says that audience scores are not allowed. There had been a consensus to include them, because although TV articles do not generally including the scores doesn't mean they can never be included, such as in cases were other reliable sources such as TV Guide actually talk about the audience scores and indicate a noteworthy disparity. Is there a consensus to exclude the audience scores, or with the benefit of hindsight do editors still think is the disparity between audiences and critics worth keeping? -- 109.76.197.51 (talk) 03:14, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the inclusionary consensus you mentioned? Audience scores are primarily not included because their accuracy is often not reliable, and not collected or interpreted scientifically to truly represent the ratings of the full audience. —ADavidB 03:50, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Talk:The_Orville/Archive_1#RT_and_Metacritic_audience_scores. Please note carefully that it isn't the specific score that is worth mentioning but if other sources discuss the disparity between audiences and critics then reference to the discussion about the disparity can sometimes be included. -- 109.76.128.3 (talk) 23:30, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What amazes me in the English Wiki is that it almost never includes any audience scores for movies. Instead, there's constantly the scores from RT, which in most cases sounds like a joke. As if movies were made for those absolutely impartial (sure, sure) reviewers instead of the normal folks. I'm not going tell you what you should do in the English Wikipedia since I'm only involved as a reader, but I'd like to express my dissatisfaction with the fact that it's impossible find out if a movie is good without doing a broader search on the Internet. An Encyclopedia could include something like "the audience liked it" instead of "17 reviews on Rotten Tomato gave it 33%" or "some famous tiktoker John Doe said it's bad" which is in my experience (and not only mine) irrelevant in most cases. This show is a very good example of what I'm talking about. Usually, there are many sources about whether the audience liked a movie. --Xpoback (talk) 20:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have partially restored the comments from TV Guide[2] about audience response (but not comments from YouTube critic Angry Joe). -- 109.76.128.3 (talk) 23:37, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

End date needs to be removed[edit]

The infobox is showing a final broadcast date in 2022. Unless the show has been officially cancelled, and the article does not indicate this has occurred, this should be changed to "present." Although we haven't had confirmation of a 4th season, since it is now a streaming series it isn't beholden to air on an annual basis anymore. Unless a reputable source has indicated cancellation, I would say an end date is premature. 2604:3D09:1F74:1C00:318E:D999:719A:AAE6 (talk) 17:56, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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