Talk:The Last of Sheila

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other Sondheim-Perkins collaborations[edit]

I removed the section Other Sondheim-Perkins collaborations because I find the whole section to be out of place. We're talking about one film, and this section tries to shoehorn in other works (two unrealized projects) where it doesn't belong. At most, mention of these works belong at Anthony Perkins and/or Stephen Sondheim. Sondheim's page already has two mentions of Perkins (one for this film), while Perkins' page mentions Sondheim more often, but also doesn't go into detail about the works here. I encourage anyone wanting to preserve this information to work it into the bio articles and re-remove the section here, the deletion of which was recently reverted. In fact, Sondheim has a section Work away from Broadway which appears to be a great place for this stuff. — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 02:12, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

: Good idea. I moved the information over to both pages - but not sure if other editors will allow it to stay there. I will delete the section from this page, but just make a short note that they tried to collaborate together twice more. I will also paste the information to this talk page in case it's removed from the other articles. ObservantSpectator (talk) 08:31, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Preserving deleted section "Other Sondheim-Perkins collaborations" here for now[edit]

Note: This section was deleted from main article but preserved here for now in case it's needed for this article or the articles of Perkins and Sondheim. - ObservantSpectator (talk) 08:46, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Chorus Girl Murder Case[edit]

In 1975, Tony Perkins said he and Sondheim were working on another script, The Chorus Girl Murder Case. "It's a sort of stew based on all those Bob Hope wartime comedies, plus a little Lady of Burlesque and a little Orson Welles magic show, all cooked into a Last of Sheila-type plot", said Perkins.[1] He later said other inspirations were They Got Me Covered, The Ipcress File and Cloak and Dagger.[2] They had sold the synopsis in October 1974.[3] At one point, Michael Bennett was to direct, with Tommy Tune to star.[4] In November 1979, Sondheim said they had finished it.[5] However, the film was never made.[citation needed]

Crime and Variations[edit]

In the 1980s, Perkins and Sondheim collaborated on another project, the seven part Crime and Variations for Motown Productions. In October 1984 they had submitted a treatment to Motown.[6] It was a 75-page treatment set in the New York socialite world about a crime puzzle – another writer was to write the script. It, too, was never made.[7]

References

  1. ^ Flatley, Guy (Dec 28, 1975). "It's Been One of Tony Perkins' Better Years: A Good Year for Tony Perkins". Los Angeles Times. p. O27.
  2. ^ Flatley, Guy (February 19, 1978). "Perkins: Film 'sickie' turns to reel bigamy". Chicago Tribune. p. E23.
  3. ^ Winer, Linda (Oct 20, 1974). "Filling blanks in the puzzle of Sondheim", Chicago Tribune". p. E3.
  4. ^ Winecoff, Charles (1996). Split image: the life of Anthony Perkins. Dutton. p. 327.
  5. ^ Mann, Roderick (November 29, 1979). "Cool Down on 'Rough Cut'". Los Angeles Times. p. G25.
  6. ^ Mann, Roderick (October 7, 1984). "TONY PERKINS: THE 'CRIMES' OF HIS HEART". Los Angeles Times. p. X24.
  7. ^ Zadan, Craig (1986). Sondheim & Co. Harper & Row. pp. 352–53.

Plot -- names -- first better than last?[edit]

The plot uses last names, e.g. Greene rather than Clinton. I think it would be better to use first names, because the last names rarely come up during the movie. I wanted to ask first before changing. --David Tornheim (talk) 12:09, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adjectives[edit]

Although the plot text is long, I support keeping it that way, because of the twists and turns. I did notice a couple of sentences such as these:

  • "She [Alice] is...a bit scared of the whole game."
  • "Dexter gets nervous...."

These are definitive interpretations of the character's inner state. For films (and other stories using the technique Show, don't_tell), I believe it is generally better to describe a character's behavior, actions, and/or facial expressions, etc. rather than infer a character's thoughts or feelings. Different viewers may interpret the emotions of the character differently. I actually thought that Alice was not scared, but indifferent, although the person I saw the film with thought Alice was scared. --David Tornheim (talk) 12:21, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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