Talk:The Hidden People

A fact from The Hidden People appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 July 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that The Hidden People by Alison Littlewood is based on the 1895 incident in Ireland where Bridget Cleary was burnt alive by her husband, who believed she was a fairy changeling?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet (talk) 02:26, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that The Hidden People by Alison Littlewood is based on the 1895 incident in Ireland where Bridget Cleary was burnt alive by her husband who believed she was a fairy changeling? Sources: [1] "A young woman named Bridget Cleary of ... County Tipperary, who was tortured and burned to death because her husband believed the fairies had spirited her away and substituted in her place a witch changeling"; [2] "... their stories are based around true events: The Hidden People on the case of Bridget Cleary, who was burned to death by her husband in Tipperary in 1896". Note that the correct date of the incident is 1895, see [3][4].

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Pippa Moore

Converted from a redirect by Bruce1ee (talk). Self-nominated at 09:29, 1 July 2021 (UTC).[reply]

New enough, long enough, QPQ done. While Earwig picks up several things, they all appear to be attributed quotes, so that is fine. The article is neutral and has reasonable citations. I have a slight issue with the hook and the WP:LEDE: the lede is the only place where "based on the Bridget Cleary incident" is clearly stated (MOS:INTRO says "Apart from basic facts, significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article."), and the majority of the citations are about this incident, not about whether the book was based on the incident. I would prefer not to see so many citations in the lede section. Bruce1ee, could you perhaps cover the incident itself more in the Background section and just summarise it in the lede? —Kusma (talk) 14:43, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kusma: Thanks for picking up this review. I'll attend to the issues you raised. —Bruce1ee^talk 14:54, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kusma: I've made the changes you suggested. When you have a moment, please will you review them. Thanks. —Bruce1ee^talk 09:52, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good now! The hook is cited in the article, and interesting. —Kusma (talk) 11:14, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. —Bruce1ee^talk 11:16, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Need better language[edit]

"He does not see or hear from her again, until 1862 when Albie's father tells him that Lizzie had been burnt to death by her husband." -- He doesn't see or hear from her in 1862, either. I'm inclined to change "until 1862 when" to "and in 1862", but am open to better ideas. -- Jibal (talk) 20:37, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, I went ahead and made the change, which I think is fine. -- Jibal (talk) 20:41, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, he doesn't see her in 1862; 1851 was the last time he saw her. Thanks for fixing that, and for the couple of other changes you made. —Bruce1ee^talk 21:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DYK hits[edit]

Just out of interest, two of the secondary links in this article's DYK on the Main page yesterday attracted more hits than the primary DYK link.

—Bruce1ee^talk 10:18, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]