Talk:The Duke's Diwan

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Did you know... that The Duke's Diwan was built in 1924 as the first post office in Amman, Jordan?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 18:50, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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View of the Duke's Diwan’s interior

... that the Duke's Diwan (pictured) was built in 1924 as the city of Amman's first postal office?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mastoureh Afshar

Created by Makeandtoss (talk). Self-nominated at 02:13, 28 January 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Sorry, but unfortunately there are too many problems with this article, which are listed below:
- - First of all, the article is not long enough. Although the character count stands at 1825 bytes, two paragraphs are repeated (one word for word and one with very minor differences) within the article, first in the lead and then in the Background section. If the repeated paragraphs are removed, then there are only 1238 bytes which is too short for DYK.
  - There is no source which states that the building was constructed in 1924. The closest source is this, which states that "the Duke’s Diwan was established as the first post office of Amman in 1924". To me, this means that the post office opened in 1924, not that the building was built that year (of course, it may be true, but we need a source).
  - The picture was uploaded by the writer/nominator claiming "own work", however, it is clearly a screenshot from Google Street View. I am going to nominate this picture for deletion on Commons.

The building seems notable enough and it may well be worth featuring on DYK, however the article needs more work and more sources. Xwejnusgozo (talk) 22:03, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Xwejnusgozo: I fixed the issues you mentioned. Makeandtoss (talk) 23:37, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Makeandtoss: New review in light of the changes to the article:

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: New enough and now long enough. Each paragraph has a source and it seems neutral. Earwig's Copyvio Detector stands at 8.3% so it seems to be free of plagiarism. Hook is now cited in this Arabic source, which when translated with Google Translate contains "...rented it as soon as its construction was completed to be the first building for the Jordan Post in Amman". Hook interesting, but I would prefer rewording it slightly to use the term "post office" instead of "postal office" (I suggest that this is done in the article as well):

ALT1:... that the Duke's Diwan (interior pictured) was built in 1924 as the first post office in Amman, Jordan?

This new pic seems OK, however, although it seems reasonably clear at 100px, I'm not sure it would be the best to feature on the main page. All in all, the article's much better now - well done for the improvement! I made a few minor edits to the article by altering one citation and adding two categories. Xwejnusgozo (talk) 22:32, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't see an inline cite for the fact that it was built in 1924 as the city's first post office. Yoninah (talk) 18:42, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Fixed. Makeandtoss (talk) 18:45, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Restoring tick per Xwejnusgozo's review. Yoninah (talk) 18:47, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 22:38, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]