Talk:The 37's

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March 23, 2014	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on April 19, 2014.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the episode "The 37's" was the first time in a Star Trek series that a Federation starship had landed on a planet's surface?

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Request Move[edit]

Request Move poll and discussion is located at this talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yaksha (talk • contribs) 10:24, 22 December 2006

Fred and Amelia[edit]

The episode makes numerous references to the Earhart legend, adding one element; in this version of the story it is revealed that Noonan has fallen in love with his pilot, and romance blossoms between the two as they choose to stay on the planet.

Where is the evidence for this (that "romance blossoms between the two")? When Fred thinks he's going to die, he tells Amelia he loves her. When he finds out he's not going to die, he asks her to forget what he just said and she replies that she already has. I don't see anything in their subsequent dialogue or even body language to suggest that a romance is blossoming between them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.168.151.241 (talk • contribs) 00:26, 23 July 2008

Landing[edit]

This episode is described as featuring "the first time a Federation starship is shown landing on a planet's surface." But the air date of the episode is 1995, while Star Trek: Generations dates from 1994. Generations features the landing of the Enterprise's saucer section. This is arguably the first time we see a complete starship land, but not the first time we see a landing at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.175.179.131 (talk • contribs) 01:55, 15 August 2009

You can't call it a landing. The saucer section of the enterprised crashed on the planet due to the shockwave coming from the exploding drive section. The saucer was never designed to land. 62.235.184.126 (talk) 20:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Preparation for Good Article Nomination[edit]

As I see it, I think this article is about 90% ready for a good article nomination. Off the top of my head, here are what I think needs to be done before it should be nominated:

Lead: The Star Trek episode leads have become pretty standardised and this article will be compared to those. So it just needs to be brought out in the same way. The only episode of Voyager I've worked up is "Tsunkatse" so you might want to take a look there. Done
It might simply be worth including in a "see also" section, but "North Star" in ENT has a similar plot. Done
We have a source for ratings, although it's in archive.org. See the reception section in "Tsunkatse" for the link, although you'll have to click through to season two of Voyager once in the site. Done
The home media information should be interesting as it might be a good place to deal with the status of this episode. As a Brit, I think of it as the last episode of season one, but in the US it's the first episode of season two.
The only nit picky thing - there's two different date formats in the citations. Done

Those are the only things that jump out at me. Miyagawa (talk) 19:00, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the ratings now - and I've got a copy of Visions of the Future, so at some point I'll check the references for those and see if I can make the page mentions a little more precise (and see if there is anything else relevant that could be added). Miyagawa (talk) 09:51, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've expanded the lead. Miyagawa (talk) 13:24, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've made the dates match - I was intending to keep to the original format by some of the books and magazines only had months and years so it proved difficult. Instead I went for full month then date, then year. Rather than YYYY-MM-DD as intended. Miyagawa (talk) 22:13, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I mentioned this in the Star Trek Wiki Project talk page, but why would the words "human" and "humans" be capitalized throughout the plot description? -P shadoh (talk) 21:02, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For consistency since we capitalize "Cardassian" or "Romulan". I think it would look strange for a sentence to be "The Cardassians, humans, and Romulans all shook hands," so I capitalize "Human(s)". — fourthords | =Λ= | 01:23, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense, thanks! -P shadoh (talk) 16:47, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:The 37's/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Zanimum (talk · contribs) 19:35, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Passing "Plot", "Writing", "Landing the USS Voyager", "See also", "External links".

Reception

Did Voyager magazine itself italicize Mulgrew's quote?

Sharon Lawrence

"Lawrence grew up watching Mulgrew as Mary Ryan on the soap opera Ryan's Hope; from a family where women more often than not became homemakers, Mary Ryan was an "exotic" character—with her career and life in New York City—who served as inspiration for the young Lawrence." There's two way I can take the second part of this sentence:
- Mary Ryan was an inspiration to young Sharon Lawrence. Sharon was from a family where woman became home makers, and Sharon found Mary Ryan exotic.
- Mary Ryan was an inspiration to young Sharon Lawrence. The character of Mary was from a family where woman became home makers, and Mary Ryan's family found Mary Ryan exotic.
Whatever the actual case, this sentence is too delicately structured, it needs to be clearer.
Did Voyager magazine say how Sharon knew Robert Beltran? Previous show? Went to the same school?

Still have to review References. -- Zanimum (talk) 20:51, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References check out. The only issues appear to be those listed above. -- Zanimum (talk) 21:10, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the Mulgrew quote has the italicization in the original.
I made this adjustment to the sentence structure. Let me know if it's clearer this way.
No, the magazine didn't say anything about how Ms. Lawrence knew Robert Beltran.

Thanks for taking the time to review this page. — fourthords | =Λ= | 01:07, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Intriguing, it must have been a play or something, IMDb can't find any matches beyond this episode. I suppose that's it, so it's looks like the article is deserved of a GA! Congrats! -- Zanimum (talk) 15:27, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The 37's what?[edit]

Why is the title incorrect? Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 16:40, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How so? — fourthords | =Λ= | 01:13, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Address your grammar complaints to Paramount -- Apostrophe -- if that's what the complaint was supposed to be. -- 109.77.207.146 (talk) 03:41, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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