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More information for "Personnel"[edit]

I collected from The 1989 World Tour Live on Apple Music. We should use it?? Phamthuathienvan talk

Tour production[edit]

  • Excutive producers 13 Management - Adrea Swift, Robert Allen, Austin Fish
  • 13 Management - Missy Iredell, Frank Bell, Grant Garner, Jay Schaudies, Alison Hudson, Kevin Coffey, Siera Barnett, Kathy Kemp
  • Prodution Designers - Taylor Swift, Baz Halpin, Chris Nyfield
  • Tour manager - Erica Worden
  • Legal - Jessica Francis
  • Publicist - Tree Paine
  • Tour Accountant - Jaindam Kirpich
  • Production Manager - Arthur Kemish
  • Production Coordinator - Victoria Tanner
  • Audio - Chris Rowe
  • Stage Manager - Dewey Shepard
  • Aeg Rep. - Michael Dugan, Andrea Ponce
  • Wardrobe - Floyd Williams, Joseph Cassell, Jessica Jones, Shannon Summers, Tyler Green, Todd Cantrell, Pamela Lewis
  • Hair and Make-up - Donna Edmondson
  • Hair Stylist - Jemma Muradian
  • Make-up Artist - Lorrie Turk
  • Loft 89 - Stephanie Simbeck
  • Front of House Engineer - Michael Tinsley
  • FOH - David Payne
  • Carpenter - Luke Larson, Eric Piontownski, Dewey Evans, Reynaldo Rodriguez Rojas, Alex Larson, Claudya Alain
  • Automation - Rick Berger, Dan Hartmann, Keith Stacey, Michael Pettit
  • Automation/Vatio Motors - Michael Berger
  • Rigger - Todd Mauger, Alberto Pozzetti, Ryan Floyd
  • Director of Security - Ryan Malutinok
  • Security - Brandon Hughes, Jason Bertrand, David Durkin, Jeff Gebhardt, Jeff Byrum
  • Venue Security - Marty Wallgren, Natasha Cocchiarelle
  • Guitar Technician - Andrew Jones, Steve Uncapher Jr., Jody Harris, Josh Miller
  • Keyboard Technician - Galen Henson
  • Audio Technician - CJ Boggs, Casey Stewart, Andrew Dudash, Simon Farrell, Otavio "Guto" Santos
  • Drum Technician - Mark Arnold
  • Artist Monitor Engineer - Jordan Kolenc
  • Band Monitor Engineer - Scott Wasilk
  • Rf Audio Technician - Bill Flugan
  • Pyro/Lasers Technician - Reid Schulte-Derne, Renato Sulmona, Hayden Hale, Alex Kingry, Eric Muccio, Nicholas Burcul
  • Wristband Technician - Jacques Vanier, Eric Parker, Sebastian Lavoie
  • Lighting Techinician - John Flynn, David Evans, Nathan Ellis, Jason Bowman, Nicholas West, Chelsea Gill, Thomas James, Benjamin Timms, Paul Sadler
  • Video Engineer - Scott Coraci
  • Video Technician - Sean Harper, Nathaniel Fountain Jr, KarlHansen, Jon Stutsman, Mark Stutsman, Aaron Wagner, Austin Wavra, Chad Mcclymonds
  • Behind the scenes Videographer - Jordan Lynn, Ivan Clow
  • Merchandise - Butch Dominguez, Brewer Adams, Norman James
  • Control Freak - Ryan Middleness
  • Video Content Director - Grbriel Coutu-Dumont
  • Video Artist Director/Desingner - David Farfard, Janicke Morissette
  • Montion Designer/ 3D Artist - Frederic Leblank
  • Choreographer - Tyce Diorio
  • Assist. Choreographer - Tricia Miranda
  • Assist. Production Designer - Mellissa Garcia

Date concern[edit]

If the tour took place in 2015, then why does the article read that it was in 1989? Meltingwood meow 02:07, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Price of The 1989 World Tour[edit]

@Kellymoat: All prices that are mentioned in "Ticket sales" section are average price from secondary market according to Forbes. That not the price from the tour's official organizer. We should put the term "secondary market" in front of information about these price in order to avoid misunderstanding from readers? — Phamthuathienvan (talk) 12:55, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not reading it that way. The Forbes article doesn't say that the entire article is about the secondary market prices. It said that tickets were selling out, but some remained on the secondary market. Kellymoat (talk) 13:16, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Kellymoat:The entire article doesn't say but the main purpose of this article is focusing on Taylor Swift's average price on secondary market and ticket reseller site. You think $380 is Swift's average original price in US, don't you? That is price on TiqIQ. Can you double check some Forbes article about Taylor Swift's price in [1], [2], [3]? You'll see the average price always change. — Phamthuathienvan (talk) 07:29, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen $1000 ticket prices directly from venues (and/or LiveNation) for less popular shows. Why would I not expect a $380 average ticket price for something as in-demand as a Taylor Swift. Kellymoat (talk) 10:32, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Kellymoat: I repeat again, that price is not average original price for Swift shows in US. That price is from TiqIQ - a secondary ticket market. Can you see any US concert of 1989 Tour that list on Billboard Boxsocre had price over US$380?? — Phamthuathienvan (talk) 11:56, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Admittedly, I haven't gone to your references yet. But, I can totally see average prices being that high. For example, Enrique and Pitbull, at Madison Square Garden, ticket prices direct from the venue or LiveNation are $79-815. Coldplay in Miami range from $64 to $824. Why would we not expect Taylor Swift to average at $380? Kellymoat (talk) 12:25, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Just check the Billboard Boxscore data, or you can divide the tour's total gross by the tour's total tickets and see the original average price. US$250,733,097 / 2,278,647 = US$110.0359542 per ticket. Again, the average price at US$380 is from TiqIQ - a secondary ticket market. Do you still think it is the tour's original price.—Phamthuathienvan (talk) 13:03, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I paid $750 each directly to TicketMaster... and that wasn't even on the floor! If you wanted to be on the floor (in Charlotte, NC) it was going to be $1500 each. My wife is still pissed I spent that kind of money on T-Swift tickets. Eric Cable  !  Talk  13:23, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@EricCable: Taylor Swift tickets can not be so expensive like this. See information on Raleigh's PNC Arena official website, ticket range from $39.50, $97.00, and $139.50. I think you bought ticket from a reseller on Ticketmaster. Your ticket is called "Verified Resale Ticket". — Phamthuathienvan (talk) 13:40, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
How can you say that prices can't be that high. I just showed you prices over $800 for current shows. Shows that are nowhere near as in-demand as Taylor Swift, particularly in the 1989-era. Kellymoat (talk) 13:59, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Kellymoat: See the seating map for the Charlotte show that  Eric Cable  attended, Taylor Swift ticket just range from 39.50 to 129.50 US dollar. I actually know Taylor is so popular in the 1989-era but the thing I try to let you know that the US$380 IS NOT the original average price of her show. That price is from TiqIQ - an secondary ticket market or ticket resale site according to Forbes. And I want to put the term "secondary market" to help readers avoid misunderstanding. Have you checked the Billboard Boxscore chart that I gave you the link??
I am the one who contributed this "Ticket sales" section. I used to think the US$380 price as well as all another price I put here were the Taylor Swift's original price because I did not care about the word "secondary market" that the Forbes author always mentioned in every his report about Swift price.
About Coldplay ticket price in Miami. I think ticket for the show has been sold out, and some ticket holders resale them in high price. The South Florida site reported that ticket for Coldplay's Miami show in August "cost $29.50-$189.50". Please check Ticketmaster website - the official agency which sell ticket for this show. Can you see the word "Verified Resale Ticket"?. Similar to Enrique and Pitbull show at Madison Square Garden, where original price just range from $49.95 to $199.95.
But you are forgetting those "VIP packages" which are considered ticket sales, and are not from resellers. Kellymoat (talk) 14:59, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean with VIP Package? I know VIP Packages cost the highest price among all category but I am talking about standard price. Standard ticket price often sell out quickly, and some touts resale them with unthinkable price on secondary market.—Phamthuathienvan (talk) 15:10, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No. I did not open the box score. That is the one that doesn't want to open for me.Kellymoat (talk) 17:42, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway, I'll edit the Ticket sales section like below so no reader will not misunderstand about the price.—Phamthuathienvan (talk) 12:22, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ticket sales[edit]

Pre-sales for European shows started on November 4, public on-sale for this leg started on November 7, tickets for London was sold later on November 10. First round of pre-sales on select North American shows start on November 7 and general sales for fans in North America started from November 14, 2014; Australia started from December 12, 2014; Japan started from December 13, 2014; Singapore and Shanghai started from June 30, 2015. Swift was the sixth most-searched artist on Ticketmaster in 2014.[1]

Sellout status occurred in many cities when general sales for the tour started. Swift announced 9 extra dates as well as the new show in Houston for North American leg. Los Angeles had the most extra dates with 3 shows at Staples Center, cities which had one extra date were East Rutherford, Chicago, Washington, D.C., Philadelphia, St. Paul, Santa Clara. In St. Louis, Swift was originally performing on October 13 and 14, 2015, but after to adding Houston to the schedule, St. Louis shows downsize from two to one and she would play in this city only on September 28, 2015 and tickets go on sale at 10 am on January 30, 2015.[2] However, tickets for St. Louis show was sold out within minutes, this resulted in a second date being added there on September 29 at the same venue.[3] Swift also added more dates to European leg due to vast popularity, one for Cologne and one for Dublin.[4] In Dublin, tickets for both concert sold out within 55 minutes although the second show was just added after 6 minutes when the first show was sold out.[5]

In Australia, over 30,000 tickets for the first show (December 11, 2015) in Melbourne was sold out less than an hour.[6] Soon after, Swift announced 2 extra dates for this leg, one for Melbourne and one for Adelaide.[7] Due to popular demand, in July 2015, Swift added the third show for Melbourne after 2 first shows were sold out and became the first female artist to play 3 shows at AAMI Park.[8]

In January 2015, Forbes reported that The 1989 World Tour was one of the most expensive concert tours of 2015 on secondary market, just behind Fleetwood Mac's On with the Show and Maroon 5's V Tour.[9] In the US, the average ticket price was $380 according to TiqIQ, and the cheapest date was the show at the Fargodome on October 12, where the average ticket price was $182.95 with a get-in of $79.[10] The show on June 29, 2015 in Dublin was the most expensive European date, where the average ticket price was $285, with a get-in price of $198.[11] The Sydney show has the cheapest get-in price for Taylor Swift tickets in Australia at $130 Australian ($100 USD). The most expensive show is the final concert in Melbourne – Saturday, December 12, 2015 – with a get-in price of $249 Australian ($193 USD). In total, The Red Tour tickets averaged $176 across all tour stops, whereas the 1989 World Tour averaged at about $392 per concert, a 123% increase. Tickets for the 1989 World Tour were the most expensive ever for Taylor Swift.[10] Phamthuathienvan (talk) 07:36, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I paid $750 each directly to TicketMaster... and that wasn't even on the floor! If you wanted to be on the floor (in Charlotte, NC) it was going to be $1500 each. My wife is still pissed I spent that kind of money on T-Swift tickets. Eric Cable  !  Talk  13:23, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@EricCable: Taylor Swift tickets can not be so expensive like this. See information on Raleigh's PNC Arena official website, ticket range from $39.50, $97.00, and $139.50. I think you bought ticket from a reseller on Ticketmaster. Your ticket is called "Verified Resale Ticket". — Phamthuathienvan (talk) 13:40, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nope. Directly from Ticket master in the first minutes they were on sale. Confirmed with people sitting around me they had all paid about the same amount. Eric Cable  !  Talk  13:55, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
http://business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/official-platinum-seats-how-ticketmaster-benefits-from-sky-high-tragically-hip-ticket-prices

References

  1. ^ "Luke Bryan Tops One Direction on Ticketmaster's Most-Searched List". Billboard. January 5th, 2015.
  2. ^ "Taylor Swift's St. Louis concerts downsize from two nights to one". January 11th 2015. Archived from the original on 2016-01-23.
  3. ^ "Taylor Swift Adds Second St. Louis Show!".
  4. ^ "TAYLOR ANNOUNCES ADDITIONAL DATE ON THE EUROPEAN LEG OF THE 1989 WORLD TOUR". taylorswift.com.
  5. ^ "Taylor Swift sold out after adding extra Dublin date".
  6. ^ "TAYLOR SWIFT SELLS OUT AAMI PARK MELBOURNE".
  7. ^ "Taylor Swift adds more shows to 2015 Australian tour".
  8. ^ "Taylor Swift To Make History At AAMI Park".
  9. ^ "Fleetwood Mac, Maroon 5 & Taylor Swift Top Forbes List of Most Expensive Secondary Market Tour Tickets 2015".
  10. ^ a b Lawrence, Jesse (29 July 2015). "Tickets For 1989 Tour Are Most Expensive Ever For Taylor Swift". Forbes. Retrieved 2016-02-12.
  11. ^ "High Demand For Taylor Swift Tickets Continues As 1989 World Tour Heads Overseas". Forbes. June 10th 2015.

Interludes[edit]

The concert included quite a few interludes. Shouldn't they be added to the set list? Johnnyboytoy (talk) 02:17, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Stage design[edit]

(talk) 03:25, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Table format[edit]

The current table in the "Shows" section should be updated to meet MOS:ACCESS (see WP:CONCERTS#Tables for specifics). Some other points:

  • since all of the shows are in 2015, this could be included in the "Date" column header, so it doesn't need to be repeated for every entry
  • don't see any reason to highlight entries with "N/A" (normally used to stand out from the rest, i.e., to indicate some significance)
  • well-known countries should not be linked (see MOS:OVERLINK); also, "United States" is often abbreviated "U.S." in tables (see MOS:ABBR#Exceptions)

Ojorojo (talk) 14:50, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for pointing out, Ojorojo. I have revised the tables per MOS:ACCESS. Cheers, (talk) 15:32, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good. The rest of her tour articles would also benefit from updating. On some other tour articles, I wonder if the "legs" are actually identified as such by reliable sources. It doesn't seem like a date or two in the UK squeezed into the middle of a bunch of American dates really constitutes a "European leg". —Ojorojo (talk) 16:23, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]