Talk:Tetraoxygen

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Okay, it's becoming clear to me from reading all these papers that we're really talking about two different things here: the red solid that's stable between 10 and 96 GPa, and the unstable species detected in mass spectroscopy experiments (i.e. in a vacuum, zero pressure). There's no reason they should have the same structure or properties. I'll split it into two sections to reflect this. —Keenan Pepper 22:46, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I can't find any sources that mention its possible use as rocket fuel. —Keenan Pepper 00:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, now I found the Nature News article this is copied from almost verbatim. Good thing I'm doing a rewrite at User:Keenan Pepper/Tetraoxygen. —Keenan Pepper 00:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup tag?[edit]

What, exactly, needs cleaning up? —Keenan Pepper 23:12, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This site needs some work...[edit]

It really does. very sad. It needs some physical properties of physical information and more data. --205.188.116.5 00:45, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This page is in need of major updating. The ε phase of oxygen is NOT O4. A group has determined this by XRD. Four oxygen molecules associate into a rhombohedral (O2)4 = O8 not O4

Article: Phys. Rev. Lett. 2006,97,085503

Possible form[edit]

Is it possible that the O₄ molecule is similar to that of ozone?

O₂ --> O=O

O₃ --> O=O⁺-O^-

O₄ --> O^--O⁺=O⁺-O^- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kazyan1 (talk • contribs) 04:24, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I guessed something else. It should be zwitterionic, except with all four oxygens being ions, as in: the center is O²⁺
, and all outer oxygens are O^2/3-. Alfa-ketosav (talk) 19:47, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Clarity in form[edit]

"Tetraoxygen was first predicted in 1924 by Gilbert N. Lewis, who proposed it as an explanation for the failure of liquid oxygen to obey Curie's law. Though not entirely inaccurate, computer simulations indicate that although there are no stable O4 molecules in liquid oxygen, O2 molecules do tend to associate in pairs with antiparallel spins, forming transient O4 units."

What's not entirely inaccurate, the computer simulations? Lewis's prediction? The failure of oxygen to obey Curie's law? DAVilla (talk) 06:11, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]