Talk:Tarbiz

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Tarbiz's continuation[edit]

@Randykitty: Hi, thanks for the welcome. JSTOR isn't a site that is helpful for knowing whether a journal has ended publication or not. Many journals have a policy to upload open-access journals only a few years after publication. One reason is that they could potentially earn some money on the latest issues that have articles that may interest readers. The basis for the edit I made is both having seen physical copies of the latest issues of Tarbiz (2022-2023), as well as individual papers on Academia (for example, from 2019), and lastly, the Tarbiz website is still active. The site itself has uploaded issues until 2021, and presumably in the coming years will continue to update. And eventually, the later issues will also reach JSTOR. פלטיהו (talk) 10:04, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi פלטיהו, thanks for the link to the journal's homepage. Of course, we still need evidence that the journal continued after 2018. Unfortunately, the fact that you have seen issues is not a source we can use for the article and academia.edu is not the most reliable of sources... Too bad the journal's homepage is not more up-to-date. Anyway, I have changed the article (I'll do some more editing in a moment). BTW, JSTOR is not just OA, one needs a subscription to access its content. But some journals only put their stuff on JSTOR after several years. Cheers! --Randykitty (talk) 10:29, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Randykitty: I'm sorry, I don't understand. What would be evidence that a journal is still active? There are several Wiki articles about journals. Based on what are they considered still active? If I were to upload an image of the latest issue of Tarbiz, would that be considered "evidence"?
    As for Academia, the link simply shows a PDF of the article as it was printed. Do you consider that to be a forgery?
    פלטיהו (talk) 14:04, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Most of the time, it's easy to show that a journal is still extant as by now 95%+ of all journals have at least some online presence. And keep that updated... An image of the latest cover would be "evidence", but a clear source is needed for copyright purposes. Scanning a document doesn't let you upload it as "own work". If that cover is online somewhere (and evidently not a copyvio), that would be useable, too. As for academia.edu, that is usually a source to avoid, but of course I don't claim that they forge articles. There may be copyright issues, however and I think this applies to the PDF that you linked to above. As the journal is a print journal, it likely is not open access (and in any case I haven't seen anything in that direction). That means that the PDF is a copyvio and we cannot even link to it in the article. In any case, it only brings us to 2019... Above you said that the "site itself has uploaded issues until 2021", but I don't see that (but I'm using Google Translate as I don't read Hebrew). Were do you see the 2021 issue?--Randykitty (talk) 15:34, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]