Talk:Tabby's Star

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other strange stars.[edit]

there are 4 strange stars including this one , one is mention here as well the EPIC one , there is a 3 that i am still trying to refind and now a 4 called VVV-WIT-07 can some one make a page for this star and also mention it in the article?

1:KIC 8462852(Flickering Adult star)

2:EPIC 204278916(Flickering Proto star)

3:Przybylski’s Star (Adult star with material that you would only expect if a alien race would dump stuff into the star)

4:VVV-WIT-07 (Flickering ? star) [unsure for its stage] Joshoctober16 (talk) 20:59, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone is looking for articles to create, Google turns up plenty of sources for VVV-WIT-07 / VVV WIT 07 and we don't appear to have it yet. Alsee (talk) 21:50, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW - a listing of similar strange stars has been created, and may be found at => "List of stars that dim oddly" - hope this helps - iac - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 14:03, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This paper may be of interest: A Search for Analogs of KIC 8462852 (Boyajian's Star): A Proof of Concept and the First Candidates (https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ab2e77) EighteenFiftyNine (talk) 03:40, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for wonderful job updating consolidated plot[edit]

Renerpho, thanks for the marvelous job you've done updating the consolidated plot of Tabby's Star dimmings! And thanks to Bruce Gary for the data!

Updating current consolidated plot[edit]

Does anyone have any objections to updating the current consolidated plot with the following version, which reflects the likely 1,574 day periodicity, and which throws a spotlight on the crucial October 2021 portion of the current observing season? Synchronist (talk) 00:15, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

aliens[edit]

i am no expert but i saw the counter explanation to it being a alien structure being that the light would be even in all wavelengths. wouldn't this be true too if they were made of a transparent material? transparent solar panels now exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:567C:2F00:59E1:BF7:314A:909C (talk) 00:11, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Transparent solar panels let through visible light mostly, but heavily absorb in the ultraviolet below 400nm, and they also absorb more in infrared. But unless someone published on this topic in relation to this star, we won't be mentioning it here. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:39, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Megastructures and the physics limits of computation[edit]

This is original research and because of that not suitable for Wikipedia. But it is something editors of this article might watch for since I can't imagine the information staying out of the media and science papers very much longer. One related paper is

https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.16111

"Rebuilding the Habitable Zone from the Bottom Up with Computational Zones" This article mentions 56 K for one of the computation temperatures, close to the measured 65 K.

I don't consider it at all likely that life forms could evolve except on a planet in the habitable zone. But once they have evolved, and lifted off into space (an interest of mine since 1975) it's hard to imagine what direction they might take. They might upload and move into cyberspace, in which case, they are going to make the fastest and most energy efficient computers physics will allow.

If they are individuals and want to communicate, then minimum physical separation is also a consideration. Still, the biggest dip object is around 2.5 seconds across.

https://www.sciencealert.com/a-star-with-random-dimming-has-become-one-of-the-most-mysterious-in-the-milky-way

https://www.sciencealert.com/a-bunch-of-potential-tabby-s-star-alikes-have-just-been-identified

This is sort of related to computers. Assuming they are megastructures, the only thing that makes much sense is computation. The idea of computronium and Jupiter Brains came from the Extropian list in the early 90s.. My contribution then was to pour cold water on the idea because a large brain is going to be a slow brain due to the speed of light.

If we are looking at data centers 400 times the area of the Earth, powered by more than a million times the energy humans use, and operating at around 65 K then what are they doing? Any ideas? Keith Henson (talk) 09:22, 8 September 2023 (UTC) Keith Henson (talk) 09:25, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hkhenson: Indeed, this is mostly original research; it seems to be largely off-topic, too.
This leaves the three url's you posted. I don't see how the Arxiv paper would be a useful reference for this article, because 1. it doesn't mention Tabby's Star, and 2. it hasn't been peer-reviewed yet.
The second of the two ScienceAlert articles you posted is already used. However, the first one may be usable (not necessarily for the WP:OR content you were discussing, but in general). Renerpho (talk) 23:56, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have repaired the section that has used the second ScienceAlert article, which has been broken since June 2023.[1] Renerpho (talk) 23:57, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]