Talk:Systems analyst

Cultural Reference

Does anyone remember the class nerd from one of the early Simpsons episodes crossing his fingers and saying "Systems Analyst, Systems Analyst" while waiting for his computer generated career match to be announced? That my favourite Cultural Reference. I think it may have been from the 1st season even. --138.80.0.10 (talk) 01:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Old talk from before page move

Why is systems analyst being redirected to business analyst? Philosopher06 12:20, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed! — Saxifrage ✎ 01:31, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.122.86.4 (talk) 12:08, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Reference

I believe this to be a direct cut-and-paste of the respective article from the California Occupational Guide. Please review http://www.calmis.ca.gov/file/occguide/COMPUSYS.HTM to confirm this. Someone with more time than me should check into possible copyright violations. Copyright violations aside, this article needs substantial cleanup to meet Wikipedia standards. Please see WP:CLEANUP for more information. GregChant 21:40, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

It does seem like a copy and paste of the article you mention. Usually, I think this would be fine as long as it is only a part of the article, is in quotations, and clearly cites the source. Right now, it is neither quoted, nor cites its source. As it is now, it seems like plagiarism. That is my non-legal opinion.

Gary Germeil 15:01, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Merge with system_analyst?

Shouldn't this article be merged with the article on system_analysis? Or should we be keeping both separate?

Gary Germeil 14:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

If you view my comments under systems analysis you would see that, as a practitioner of systems analysis, the systems analyst is strictly a subset of the entire field of systems analysis. The systems analyst uses systems analysis within the field of computer systems. But the field itself, systems analysis, can cover everything from how you go about doing your daily shopping to running a global business.

Unless, of course, we should also collapse Brain Surgeon under the general heading of Surgeon??? Systems Analysis is a 'field' whereas Systems Analyst is an instantiation of systems analysis within the category of computer systems.

Wpociengel 15:53, 2 February 2007 (UTC)wpociengel

No, but we can and do collapse brain surgeon into brain surgery (well, it's actually neurosurgeon into neurosurgery). A systems analyst is one who performs systems analysis. There's no reason to have seperate articles on a practitioner and his/her field, because most of the info will overlap. Recury 20:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

=age, but it is a copy of a page from a government agency. I believe all of this is in the public domain. At least I know that when I worked for Kean University, everything we published, even if there was a copyright notice, was in the public domain because we received federal funds and were an education inst. I would look for a clarification on this point before deleting this. --akc9000 ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 17:55, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Here is a replacement stub you may use:

A Systems analyst is a person that is responsible for researching, planning and recommending software and systems choices to meet an organization's business requirements.

System Analyst in some companies act as a liaison between vendors and the organization they represent. They may be responsible for developing cost analyses, design considerations, implementation time-lines. The may also be responsible for feasibility studies of a computer system before making recommendations to senior management.

In some respects a systems analyst is very similar to the role a computer consultant may play.

--akc9000 ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 23:35, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the stub, in fact this is not a federal agency and therefore the content is copyrighted © 2007 State of California. (Yeah, I know...) -- lucasbfr ^talk 11:38, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Accuracy of article?

This article seems to describe a "computer systems analyst", per the one external link. Even Wiktionary defines "systems analyst" much more broadly, as someone who practices systems analysis. Does anyone have a source that the narrow definition given here is the most prominent use of the phrase? If not, I'd suggest renaming this article "computer systems analyst" and redirecting "systems analyst" to "systems analysis" as has been proposed before. --Allen (talk) 04:29, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

In this day and age, is there really any need for such differentiation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.80.0.10 (talk) 01:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

What is the difference between a Systems Analyst and a Systems Architect?

I'm interviewing for both positions and it seems they are very similar. I would think an architect is more senior, but I can't tell for sure.

There is a huge difference between a software development Systems Analyst and a Systems Architect and this article needs to describe software development Systems Analysts much more. This article needs to relate Systems Analysis and Systems Analysts with system design methodologies. There are many hundreds of books about system design methodologies that have very little or no Systems Architect material in them. Sam Tomato (talk) 21:22, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Education

please include educational requirements to become a systems analyst —Preceding unsigned comment added by 3242432432D (talk • contribs) 06:25, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Merge

I think this article should be merged with computer systems analyst. In a modern context, both titles describe essentially the same profession. Isheden (talk) 08:44, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

I agree. While a system refers to any inter-related set of components that work to achieve a common goal, a computer is a system in itsel and computer systems analyst should have its own section under systems analyst rather than its own article. Additionally, there is barely enough information in both these articles for them to afford to be stand-alone articles. Aleksandar Bulovic' (talk) 20:23, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

"SA"

The usage and primary topic of SA is under discussion, see Talk:Sturmabteilung -- 70.51.202.183 (talk) 05:00, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

A system is a group of interacting or interrelated entities that form a unified whole.

The system can have a wide range of biological, social, economic, cultural, technological systems (including computer systems and/or information systems).

It seems that on this page and many similar pages, the macro concept of the system has been reduced to a smaller concept (computer and IT).

For example, pages such as System Analysis, System Analyst, System Engineer, System Architecture, Business Architecture, etc., have been seen as merely related to a career or field of study (such as computers and related sciences).

I ask Wikipedia managers to prevent this kind of thinking from spreading to other fields.

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