Talk:Steyr GB

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This was actually an American design, the P-18 Rogak by LES Incorporated of Morton Grove, IL. About 2300 of these were made, I think all of them before Steyr bought the design and started making the GB. There were also 2 grades of GB, the commercial and the military models. 13th Edition Blue Book says only 937 of the military model were imported, all in 1987, and yet the commercial model is priced higher. Only ever seen one of these at a gun show, and it was a commercial model. Pretty rare in the US. scot 15:46, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, it was always Steyr's basic design. They held the US patents: #3,886,844[1] and #4,010,673[2]. "Gun Digest" editor John T. Amber visited the Austrian factory in late 1974, and fired the pistol under supervision of Steyr engineer Horst Wesp. At the time, Steyr's US importer LES was expected to begin production by late 1975. LES didn't get their pistols on the market until 1979. --D.E. Watters (talk) 20:51, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The annular gas delay cylinder had appeared in prototype form in the WWii German "Volkspistol" as well as in a wwII German carbine.

The comment about very low recoil needs to be qualified, it is also very large and very heavy for a 9mmp pistol, so the low perceived recoil is not surprising.

Magazine design is double column for the full length, this shows reduced susceptability to foreign matter compared to a mag which tapers to a single feed position, such as browning GP35, Schmieser SMG and Schmieser copies including Lanchester and sten.

Full length doubble column mag also much easier to fill than single feed position mag as certridges can be easily pressed in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.106.142.221 (talk) 13:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

also need to mention that pistol has double action trigger mech for first shot or re striking primer which fails to ignite. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.106.142.221 (talk) 13:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It already notes that the GB is double action, and that article covers the workings of the double action mechanism. As for the magazine, the pictures both here and otherwise show a distinct stepping down of the magazine with at the top. While a staggered feed is the norm for rifles and is found in a number of SMGs (the KG-99 and Thompson, for example), it requires a bolt face and feed ramp much wider than for a single feed, which isn't really practical in a handgun. scot (talk) 14:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]