Talk:Stephen Dooley

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Irish Sun[edit]

An editor removed what appears to be the only article^[1] I've seen with significant coverage about Stephen Dooley, because "it's not a reliable source". I'm aware of no restrictions on using the Irish Sun as a source, and there are many articles that currently do so. I know there's some concerns about some papers, however even the worst of them can still be used with caution, if there are no sensational claims. And there appears to be nothing of the kind here - the facts are all verifiable. Before I restore the edit, perhaps someone can explain their concerns? Or at least point to equally (or more) comprehensive in-depth significant coverage; this is more of profile and detail about the player, than the other references, as far as I can see. Nfitz (talk)

References

^ Cowzer, Owen (7 March 2017). "Stephen Dooley considered leaving Cork City but could not walk away from the chance to win a title". The Irish Sun. Dublin. Retrieved 3 June 2018.

It's a tabloid, WP:DAILYMAIL arguably applies. You also can't have checked the article clearly enough as this is in-depth. The article probably now scrapes through GNG even without The Sun, it adds nothing. Giant Snowman 07:52, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Somehow, that appears to be the only reference I didn't check; I'm not sure why the article was prodded with that there. I don't see how WP:DAILYMAIL applies, as the closing statement soley addresses the Daily Mail from England in fact explicitly noting that it concerns only the Daily Mail, and doesn't even mention over English tabloids, let alone the Irish Sun. And if this arguably extends to all tabloids, then the Evening Echo is also a tabloid. Though personally I don't see any difference in quality in the article from the Echo or the Sun. Nfitz (talk) 17:05, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It was PRODded before that source was added (by myself, no less). The Sun should not be used, it's questionable at best and it adds nothing. Giant Snowman 18:54, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Cowzer, Owen (7 March 2017). "Stephen Dooley considered leaving Cork City but could not walk away from the chance to win a title". The Irish Sun. Dublin. Retrieved 3 June 2018.

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