Talk:Soviet guard ship Groza

Soviet guard ship Groza has been listed as one of the Warfare good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: April 29, 2023. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Soviet guard ship Groza appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 June 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that anti-aircraft defense for the Soviet guard ship Groza was supposed to be four single 37 mm 11-K guns, but bad relations with the UK left them with two PM M1910 guns instead?

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Soviet guard ship Groza/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Zawed (talk · contribs) 06:50, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a look at this one. Zawed (talk) 06:50, 25 April 2023 (UTC) GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

Due to the inexperience...: this sentence doesn't phrase quite right, seems to be it should be split into two and/or is missing some content.
I struggled with this one a lot; see if my reworking of it reads well
Yep, that change looks good. Zawed (talk) 03:55, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

pair of Tsarist-era 60-caliber 102-millimeter (4 in) Pattern 1911 guns, one mount forward and aft of the superstructure.: Should that be "pair of Tsarist-era 60-caliber 102-millimeter (4 in) Pattern 1911 guns, mounted forward and aft of the superstructure respectively" or similar?

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

Dupe links: abaft, sonar
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section):

b. (citations to reliable sources):

c. (OR):

All sources are print and the preview function on Google Books wasn't able to bring up any relevant pages that I could check. I could see that Hill ref had a chapter on the Uragan class vessels. However, given history of nominator, I have no concerns with the sources.

d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

Earwig tool shows 4.8% similarity, but this is because of the titles of the sources.
It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects):

The ship was one of eight of Series I ships known officially as Project 2, but they were nicknamed the "Bad Weather Flotilla" by Soviet sailors by virtue of their meteorological names.: this statement in the lead is not explicitly covered off in the body of the article.
I made a tweak to the lead and article body as the mention of "eight" and "Project 2" still wasn't explicitly mentioned in article body. The latter came from the Uragan-class article which has the same cite. Zawed (talk) 04:08, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and article body inconsistent regarding launch date.

Does the translation of the ship name need a cite?
Not controversial, etc., so I don't think so.

b. (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Trying out the template for this review, see comments embedded above. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 10:44, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See if my changes are satisfactory.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:41, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rather than make further comments and delaying what I am sure would have been a pass for GA, I made a couple of additional tweaks that I felt were necessary. I consider this article meets the necessary GA criteria now. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 04:11, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 01:45, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Article history

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... that anti-aircraft defense for the Soviet guard ship Groza was supposed to be done by four single 37-millimeter 11-K AA guns, but bad relations with the UK left them using a pair of PM M1910 instead? Source: Hill, Alexander (2018). Soviet Destroyers of World War II. New Vanguard. Vol. 256. Oxford: Osprey Publishing. ISBN 978-1-4728-2256-7. Page 21
- ALT1: ... that Soviet guard ship Groza was active in providing fire support for Soviet troops along with helping to land two battalions of infantry to counter-attack the Germans in Operation Platinum Fox? Source: Citations 18 and 19
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fuccboi (novel)
- Comment: I hate the 200 character limit and outrageously long military weapon names. If anyone can find ways to shorten these hooks then i'd appreciate it.

Improved to Good Article status by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 02:37, 5 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Soviet guard ship Groza; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Reviewing. jengod (talk) 20:03, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: jengod (talk) 02:44, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Basically all good. onegreatjoke and Sturmvogel 66 please take a look at these possible hook edits and let me know if they've introduced any errors. After they're checked we're go for launch.

ALT-orig-b ... that anti-aircraft defense for the Soviet guard ship Groza was supposed to be four single 37-mm 11-K guns, but bad relations with the UK left them with two PM M1910 instead?
ALT1-b ... that the Soviet guard ship Groza provided fire support and landed two infantry battalions to counterattack the Germans during Operation Platinum Fox?

Thank you for contributing this good work to Wikipedia. jengod (talk) 20:52, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jengod: Those are much better. Onegreatjoke (talk) 02:40, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okey-doke! Should be ticked and ready to go. Cheers. jengod (talk) 02:44, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]