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First, congratulations, Thailand! :)

Hello, guys. Hope editors can help build and improve this page, with legitimate and factual details about Sireethorn Leearamwat, backed by sources and references. Looking forward to collaborating and working with you, guys!

Migsmigss (talk) 09:41, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Migsmigss: SireeThorn is not a model, please stop to try to add the wrong details about her. Sources that you try to confrimed its not true. its Vetnamese press and we cant read and understand it, also other press English didnt said she ia a model and you also cant read and understand Thai. you are Spainish. if she is working as a model before where is her model profiles like photoshoot, fashion set or runway job? a swimwear and evening grown photos her just shoot for her profile at Miss International 2019 its not called model job. Detail in Thai article also show that she is a Pharmacist and Beauty Queen not a Model.

so in Thailand, Thai press and her official profile for Miss Thailand 2019, Miss International Thailand 2019 and Miss International 2019 is a Pharmacist, she never working in entertainment industry before join Miss Thailand and never did a job a as a model after she won. a photoshoot that show her wearing swimwear its official photo for Miss International 2019, its not her job as a model for the brand.

Admin can check the right details on Official Miss Internationa 2019 Final Live Show at 2.03.07, 2.36.58, 2.54.41, 3.02.50, 3.40.15 /https://www.facebook.com/Miss.International.bp/videos/808572779575601/ if contestants who are model they will give all details on her profile like Vietnam that she is Actress/Model/Singer, Venezuela Student/Model.

Or can checking about her real carreer as Pharmacist not Phamacist and Model on Miss Thailand, Miss International Thailand and Miss International official websites and pages. Or her official Instagram @bintsireethorn and her official interviews with Thai press.-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evrdkmkm (talk • contribs) 08:54, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are you seriously edit warring with another editor over one word. Time to take a breath, and a step back and just move on. The word does perhaps not need reinstating if it upset you to the degree that it risks your participation in the Wikipedia.BabbaQ (talk) 08:56, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@BabbaQ: sorry, this is between me and Migsmigss that i try to explain him Sireethorn she is not a model and please him stop to try to add the wrong detail.--Evrdkmkm (talk) 09:08, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have decided not to engage further with this user, as I saw it was a fruitless discussion devoid of civility on their part. I tried engaging with this user with the hope of arriving at a resolution, all in good faith and with due respect, but all in vain. I kept my cool and distanced myself for a bit. I also did not want to get dragged into the narrative of a user that uses social media as references/sources.

I want to thank BabbaQ for understanding my decision to distance myself for a bit, and for initiating some of the edits on this article that are factual, truthful, and are all backed by reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Migsmigss (talk • contribs) 19:50, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thank you. You did all the right things. Also the account in question turned out to be a sock of a sock. Very weird. Now blocked and forgotten about. Keep up your good work! BabbaQ (talk) 20:19, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The sockpuppetry issue notwithstanding, I don't see anything that disputes Evrdkmkm's concerns that describing the subject as a model is incorrect. I'm removing it. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:42, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Migsmigss: Please add available sources for her being a model, again. So we can put this issue can be laid to rest. The now blocked sock removed those sources. Thanks.BabbaQ (talk) 22:01, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

BabbaQ, these were the references I used in adding detail of her being a model^[1]^[2]^[3]

Migsmigss (talk) 22:08, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I support reinstating of the Model work per sources.BabbaQ (talk) 22:34, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Migsmigss: Please if you could, please add the sources again after the word Model in the article. The sources are verifiable and good. I would do it myself but I am editing from a cellphone right now. Thanks.BabbaQ (talk) 22:37, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how any of those three sources can be regarded as reliable for this fact, considering that WP:CONTEXTMATTERS and it is not supported by more reliable news sources in English and Thai that have widely reported on her. If you insist, I will bring this to the WP:RSN. --Paul_012 (talk) 22:55, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Paul_012. Thanks for the reply, and for raising concern. I have rolled back the edits, for now, since you are in disagreement; and yes, please, you may raise this to WP:RSN, so we could finally resolve this issue. Thanks. Migsmigss (talk) 23:03, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion started at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Three sources in the Sireethorn Leearamwat article. --Paul_012 (talk) 01:25, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Paul_012. Already replied there. Looking forward to getting a resolution soon. :)

Migsmigss (talk) 03:06, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Altatis, Conan (12 November 2019). "Thailand's Sireethorn Leearamwat crowned Miss International 2019 by Venezuela's Mariem Velazco in Tokyo, Japan". CONAN Daily.
^ "Nhan sắc quyến rũ của người đẹp Thái Lan đầu tiên đăng quang Hoa hậu Quốc tế 2019". www.msn.com. Retrieved 2019-11-13.
^ "GenPI.co". GenPI.co (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2019-11-13.

[1] Altatis, Conan (12 November 2019). "Thailand's Sireethorn Leearamwat crowned Miss International 2019 by Venezuela's Mariem Velazco in Tokyo, Japan". CONAN Daily.

[2] "Nhan sắc quyến rũ của người đẹp Thái Lan đầu tiên đăng quang Hoa hậu Quốc tế 2019". www.msn.com. Retrieved 2019-11-13.

[3] "GenPI.co". GenPI.co (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2019-11-13.

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