Talk:Sir Edward Seymour, 1st Baronet

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not done Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:52, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Sir Edward Seymour, 1st Baronet → Edward Seymour, 1st Baronet — As far as I can tell, according to WP:NCROY Wikipedia doesn't use the prefix "sir" in article titles unless its required for disambiguation page. Since, having looked at the Edward Seymour disambiguation page, it doesn't seem to make any difference for this bunch of articles, it seems sensible to remove the "sir". Of course, like most Brits, I'm no expert on the nobility, so if anyone knows more about it please say so. Update: added more Seymour Baronets to this move request. 84.92.117.93 (talk) 22:19, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I happened across this discussion at WP:RM, and I'm afraid I disagree with your reading of WP:NCROY. The applicable section under British peerage reads (emphasis added):

4. Baronets should generally have their article located at the simple name John Smith. But their hereditary titles, often held for a large part of their lives, should be noted at the beginning of the article in the format Sir John Smith, 17th Baronet. If they need to be disambiguated from another man of the same name, use the full style as the article name. John Smith, 17th Baronet should never be used with the postfix and without the prefix.

In this case, there are many Edward Seymours, some are Baronets, some are not; so disambiguation in the form of Sir Edward Seymour, Xth Baronet is necessary. The same applies to the Henrys and Francises. Wine Guy Talk 02:54, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The policy clearly says that for baronets with a suffix, the prefix also has to be used, so moved back to how it was with Sir and baronet. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:52, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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